Now I'm faced with more difficulties because of this. Amanda is only dumping at level2 the machine it overwrote the only full backup of.
How can I force a level 0 dump ? Cheers, -- AlanP On Fri, July 28, 2006 12:14 am, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 27 July 2006 17:08, Alan Pearson wrote: >>snip >> >>> And that has nothing to do with this instant problem. The instant >>> problem is that you don't have enough tapes in your tapecycle, so you >>> never have a 2nd or 3rd generation backup. At the price of dds tapes, >>> thats being rather penny wise and pound foolish. And, having rather >>> extensive personal experience with dds tapes, my backups got about 100 >>> times more dependable when I bought a big hard drive and changed to >>> vtapes 2 years ago. >> >>That is your situation. Not mine. The price of tapes has nothing to do >>with it. >> > Price, or availability in a timely manner. Its mochs nichts, the end > result is the same when amanda didn't have sufficient resources to do the > job. > >>> Please don't go around bad-mouthing amanda when the real constraint is >>> the operating environment, one that would cripple any backup protocol. >> >>The constraint is NOT the operating environment, but the behaviour in >>these conditions. >>I've heard the more tapes argument, and yes I agree more tapes are >> necessary. > > Yippers. > >>The behaviour of Amanda is wrong IMHO, and regardless of how it behaves >>_today_ , backup software should never knowingly overwrite yourlast valid >>backup and leave you with none. THAT is the point. > > And it should be taken as a valid point, given the context that you got > bit > in. > >>As for bad - mouthing Amanda, I'll rise to that little dig. Amanda is >> free software, which I gratefully accept (I also develop free software >> http://testmaster.sourceforge.net/), and I am reporting a problem, not >> bad mouthing it. When my users report problems, I take it on board and >> strive to improve the software, not defend it's behaviour. > > We do tend to try and protect the girl a wee bit from the folks who think > they know more than amanda about how to do a backup, so I'm guilty of > that. > >>If the developers think that it is desired behaviour to overwrite your >>last valid backup, then fine, I'll either quit using it or attempt to fix >>it myself, as it doesn't fulfill my needs. > > I think it was Jon LaBadie that came up with an acronym for that, > something > to do with "patches always welcome", but I don't think it was "PAW". > Jon? :) More than one patch that extended amanda's abilities has been > posted to this list over the 7 years I've been lurking. > >>But considering the number of other checks that Amanda does to ensure >> that backups aren't over written, I believe I've identified a corner >> case that needs to be fixed. > > Now thats an interesting phrase, corner case. I've never seen a really > good definition of that, but it sure is popular. > >>Remember, I believe I have found a flaw in the software and didn't expect >>to be told that it was ME that was in the wrong. Arguments about tapes >>aside, in this case Amanda did the WRONG thing and left me without a >> valid backup. Instead it should have screamed and shouted and done the >> best it could by saving in the holding disk at a minimum, or not running >> the backup. > > I think you meant "ruining" the backup, and in that context, I'm inclined > to agree, amanda should not overwrite the last good full of any dle. > >>I'd rather be with an out of date backup than none at all. >> > Agreed. > > -- > Cheers, Gene > People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word > 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's > stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) > Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above > message by Gene Heskett are: > Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. >
