The time required for the estimate is more a matter of the number of
files and not of their size. Most of the time needed for the estimation
is spent in traversing through the directory structure of the file
system. Could it be, that you have installed some big source-tarballs
to, for example, /usr/local/something and compiled them there, a few
month's ago when the problem occurred for the first time? Or did you
establish some nightly cron job that does a lot of disc I/O?

I would suggest to increase etimeout to a much bigger value, let's say
14400 or so and see if the estimates finish at all then. If they still
fail, I would take a closer look on the health of the hard discs...
Another option could be to change the estimate method for the dump type
you are using, e.g. if you are using "dumptype user-tar" for the DLEs,
put an "estimate calcsize" in the definition of "dumptype user-tar". The
results of that estimate method will be less accurate than the ones from
the default method but it executes faster.

Best
Jens


On Wed Dec 05 2012 22:50:28 GMT+0100
[email protected] (Charles Stroom) wrote:

> I hope somebody can help me.  Since already some time, most backups
> fail, mostly on one item "/usr" with the message that the estimate
> timed out.  Only once in a while (1 out of 10), this failure does not
> occur and the backup completes normally.  This sounds to me that in
> principal all conf files are ok, but somewhere it still goes wrong.
> 
> I am running amanda for years now, and I have not kept all log files,
> but the problem, in my remembrance, started to appear many months ago
> but because from time to time, everything goes well, it did not bother
> me too much.  But recently, a few more timeouts occur on other DLEs (if
> that is the name?), even on /usr/local, which is only 200Mb in total!
> I have doubled the etimeout variable 3 times (etimeout is now 4800),
> but that does not help.
> 
> Amanda produces many log files and I miss the expertise to understand
> them really.  I attach the short log file which comes at the end of a
> backup (which has incidentally more timeouts as usual).  Any ideas are
> welcome.
> 
> Regards, Charles
> 
> 
> =================================
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> 
> Hostname: fiume
> Org     : daily_backup
> Config  : daily_dds4
> Date    : November 29, 2012
> 
> These dumps were to tape dds4-01.
> The next tape Amanda expects to use is: dds4-02.
> FAILURE DUMP SUMMARY:
>   planner: ERROR fiume.localnet NAK: timeout on reply pipe
>   fiume.localnet /home lev 0  FAILED [disk /home, all estimate timed
> out] fiume.localnet /usr lev 0  FAILED [disk /usr, all estimate timed
> out] fiume.localnet /usr/local lev 0  FAILED [disk /usr/local, all
> estimate timed out] fiume.localnet /var lev 0  FAILED [disk /var, all
> estimate timed out]
> 
> 
> 
> STATISTICS:
>                           Total       Full      Incr.   Level:#
>                         --------   --------   --------  --------
> Estimate Time (hrs:min)     0:02
> Run Time (hrs:min)          0:32
> Dump Time (hrs:min)         0:15       0:15       0:00
> Output Size (meg)         2815.2     2784.6       30.6
> Original Size (meg)       5644.0     5613.4       30.6
> Avg Compressed Size (%)     49.9       49.6      100.0
> DLEs Dumped                    9          6          3  1:3
> Avg Dump Rate (k/s)       3244.3     3274.1     1775.4
> 
> Tape Time (hrs:min)         0:21       0:21       0:00
> Tape Size (meg)           2815.2     2784.6       30.6
> Tape Used (%)               15.2       15.0        0.2
> DLEs Taped                     9          6          3  1:3
> Parts Taped                    9          6          3  1:3
> Avg Tp Write Rate (k/s)   2295.2     2308.9     1491.9
> 
> USAGE BY TAPE:
>   Label               Time         Size      %  DLEs Parts
>   dds4-01             0:21     2882760K   15.2     9     9
> 
> NOTES:
>   planner: disk fiume.localnet:/var, estimate of level 0 timed out.
>   planner: disk fiume.localnet:/var, estimate of level 1 timed out.
>   planner: disk fiume.localnet:/usr/local, estimate of level 0 timed
> out. planner: disk fiume.localnet:/usr/local, estimate of level 1 timed
> out. planner: disk fiume.localnet:/usr, estimate of level 0 timed out.
>   planner: disk fiume.localnet:/usr, estimate of level 1 timed out.
>   planner: disk fiume.localnet:/home, estimate of level 0 timed out.
>   planner: disk fiume.localnet:/home, estimate of level 1 timed out.
>   planner: Full dump of fiume.localnet:/home/charles/.VirtualBox
> promoted from 3 days ahead. planner: Full dump of fiume.localnet:/
> promoted from 3 days ahead. planner: Full dump of stremen.localnet:/var
> promoted from 3 days ahead. planner: Full dump of stremen.localnet:/
> promoted from 3 days ahead. planner: Full dump of fiume.localnet:/opt
> promoted from 3 days ahead. planner: Full dump of
> fiume.localnet:/home/charles/Documents promoted from 3 days ahead.
> taper: tape dds4-01 kb 2882763 fm 9 [OK]
> 
> 
> DUMP SUMMARY:
>                                        DUMPER STATS               TAPER
> STATS HOSTNAME     DISK        L ORIG-KB  OUT-KB  COMP%  MMM:SS   KB/s
> MMM:SS   KB/s --------------------------
> ------------------------------------- -------------
> fiume.localn /           0  249010  119314   47.9    0:46 2598.0   0:51
> 2339.5 fiume.localn /home                                    FAILED
> fiume.localn -VirtualBox 0 1534120 1019294   66.4    2:25 7043.1   7:22
> 2306.1 fiume.localn -/Documents 0  100190   43137   43.1    0:11
> 3839.9   0:19 2270.4 fiume.localn -s/pictures 1   31180   31180
> --    0:11 2951.3   0:13 2398.5 fiume.localn -anon_800IS 1     150
> 150     --    0:07   22.6   0:04   37.5 fiume.localn -arles/vbox 1
> 10       1   10.0    0:00    2.3   0:04    0.0 fiume.localn /opt
> 0  785940  320516   40.8    1:07 4773.1   2:19 2305.9
> fiume.localn /usr                                     FAILED
> fiume.localn /usr/local                               FAILED
> fiume.localn /var                                     FAILED
> stremen.loca /           0 2654430 1125385   42.4    8:37 2175.4   8:07
> 2310.9 stremen.loca /var        0  424430  223784   52.7    1:25
> 2646.1   1:37 2307.1
> 
> (brought to you by Amanda version 3.2.2)
> 
> 

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