> On Nov 15, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Chris Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> From: "Cuttler, Brian R (HEALTH)" <[email protected]>
> To: "Cuttler, Brian R (HEALTH)" <[email protected]>, "Chris Miller" 
> <[email protected]>, "amanda-users" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 9:08:26 AM
> Subject: RE: Configuration confusion
> Tape custody – means what, retention policy or storage of the tape when not 
> in the drive/juke?
> Yes. Simplest is local custody. Off site custody comes in two media flavors 
> -- local media and cloud. Off site costs, so we want to minimize this, as 
> well as increases the response time for restorations. You get the idea. I 
> don't use tapes; I use removable disks, optical media,and usb keydrives. 
> General this is determined by the client, so when I plan this, I simply 
> consider which client backups need to be sequestered where. This gives me a 
> configuration where I can think in terms of "client <A> gets backedup to NAS 
> <A>", where NAS <A> has different properties and different dispositions.
> 
> 
> 
> Amanda is not an archiver in the sense that the tapes are cycled on a regular 
> basis. You are able to tape a tape out of rotation and replace it, or create 
> a unique tape label and perform level 0 backups to it and then mark it as 
> no-reuse in the tapelist, but the primary function is not long term 
> archiving, though the tools exist to do that very well.
>  
> You can use the same tape pool for all three Amanda configs, but they will 
> need to have a common tapelist file. But if you are doing that then you are 
> selecting a single set of standards for your data-at-rest security, in which 
> case there is little reason to maintain 3 different configs.
>  
> Each Amanda config will look to level nightly data, but you will have nights 
> with relatively little and nights with relatively large data volume swings, 
> er think wave interference from physics. You eliminate a lot of that by 
> combining disklists into a single configuration.
> Yes! "Each Amanda config will look to level nightly data ..."  This is my 
> principle question, and I seek to level the nightly data across all configs 
> on a given night, which I recognize can't be done, so I seek to combine my 
> multiple configs into a single config which specifies multiple sets of DLEs 
> being mapped to multiple tapedev, if that can be done. For example, if the 
> definition of tapedev had a "DLE ..." argument, and AMANDA were capable of 
> this additional dimension of scheduling.
> 
> 
> 
> Amanda will backup a new DLE at level 0 the first time it sees it. If you are 
> worried about running long you will want to phase in the DLEs across several 
> evenings. You may want to add the largest on Friday night, assuming that no 
> one cares how late Amanda runs into Saturday. You will want to avoid adding 
> multiple large DLEs on a single night, add a large and a small each night 
> until they are all added.
> "Phasing" my backup jobs may be my only choice, as that is exactly the 
> problem I seek to avoid and I have been admonished to not try to subvert the 
> scheduler by forcing level 0 backups to happen on my schedule. As I continue 
> to discuss this, I am more and more convinced that AMANDA cannot schedule in 
> two dimensions {(backups / night) X (nights / cycle)}
> 
> So, suppose I wanted to force my level 0 backups to happen at my discretion, 
> so I can level my nightly run times. How would I do that?
> 
> Thanks for the help, Brian.
> --
> Chris.
> 


Well, you *can* do
   amadmin  <configname>  force  node  [dles]
Do man amadmin to get details on the FORCE  command.
I have a separate configuration,  using the same disklist,   which I run once a 
month to get an archive tape,
with all the level 0’s on the same tape.   I have it set to do no-incr  but I 
also tell it   “amadmin archive  force *.full.ipname “
to make sure they are only level 0.  You know - belt *and* suspenders.

PS the phasing in (adding a few disks each night)  is only at the beginning,  
when they all need to do a level 0 backup.
If they’re ALL in the disklist  file, then they’ll ALL get a level 0 backup the 
first time you run amdump.
If you only add a few DLEs  each night,  then you are manually balancing it — 
but only until all are added.  After that,
amanda uses it’s leveling to proceed.

Deb Baddorf


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