On Fri, November 3, 2006 18:27, Jakob Curdes wrote: >>> We do not use AWL; this has proven to be dangerous. >> how ? >> did "auto_whitelist_factor" not help ? >> the reason i use it is that it caches first time senders nicely, with imho >> is mostly spam senders anyway :-) > I would not agree to that. Our customers do not want to get the first > mail of an important business partner rejected.
if its get rejected in the first place its not awl fault > Let's put it this way : if you use statistical filters you should not in > parallel use other autotraining methods such as AWL because the results > are unpredictable. how ? > I ended up with a lot of whitelisted spam and switched AWL off. change scores on whitelist in spamassassin, newer whitelist from, if its not with trusted rcvd headers whitelist_from gives -100 with will poison awl scores >>> We use dspam and Bayes in parallel, >> how does this work from amavisd-new ? >> using the patched version for amavisd-new for dspam ? >> > No, just integrate dspam into spamassassin. This is documented in the > RELEASE-Notes of amavisd some versions ago. okay, i will test when amavisd-new realese the modified dspam version >>> train Bayes with hamp/spam levels of 0.0 and 5.0 and >>> score both with 3.5 on spam and -1.0 on nonspam. In conjunction with >>> the "postfix mini-greylister" aka reject_unverified_sender >> this is "dangerous" since its posible to disable verify in postfix ? > It is unclear to me what you mean by "disable verify". postconf -d | grep disable | grep verify >> but only 5% mail ? > Yup. maybe its time to make snail mail :-) >> yes true, just that bayes can do this if it was trained manuely with spam / >> ham , then dspam is not needed, the effictivly of bayes depends on how its >> configured and used > But if the customers don't want to spend time with training.... most custommers don't have a life and will sit deleteing mails on there own, that could have being done for them on the mailserver :-) well in the end some mails needs to be deleted anyway -- "This message was sent using 100% recycled spam mails." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ AMaViS-user mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
