On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:36:36PM -0500, Len Conrad wrote:
> >We're trying to replace a Windows anti-spam on the mailbox servers
> >with amavisd/sa/clam on the front-end mx.
> >
> >We are running in tandem both now in the amavis/sa/clam testing phase.
> >
> >The backend mail content-scanner is still catching too many true
> >spams that get past amavis.
> >
> >We uploaded the spams caught by backend to the mx and ran them
> >through spamc, with these results:
...
> 
> here's an example of a true positive msg caught by the backed after 
> amavis passed is as clean:
> 
> "spamc -c" says against the DATA body checks out as:
> 
> 70537530.eml 10.3/5.0
> 
> 
> but in the 70537530.eml file:
> 
> X-Spam-Score: -2.27
> X-Spam-Level:
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.27 tagged_above=-20 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.556,
>          BAYES_50=0.001, HABEAS_ACCREDITED_SOI=-4.3, 
> HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_04=0.172,
>          HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, URIBL_BLACK=1.955]
> 
> so amavis correctly decided "Passed CLEAN" for -2.27, but the 12+ 
> discrepancy between spamc and amavis scores"

  Are you running spamc as the same user amavisd runs as?  If not - and
I suspect you're not - different per-user SA settings may be the source
of these differences.  What score do you get when you run spamc on that
same file as the amavis user?

  The other problem I see there, very likely related, is that it
appears you've let amavisd run with Bayes and auto-whitelisting but
without any feedback of spam/nonspam, and so it's autowhitelisting
things it shouldn't and probably also has a polluted Bayes DB - note
that "AWL=-1.556" indicating that spam had been whitelisted.

  -- Clifton

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