Steve schrieb am Dienstag, den 30. Dezember 2008:

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> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:46:31 +0100
> > Von: Alexander Wirt <formo...@formorer.de>
> > An: Steve <steeeeev...@gmx.net>
> > CC: AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Betreff: Re: [AMaViS-user] Amavis in pre-queue mode
> 
> > Steve schrieb am Montag, den 29. Dezember 2008:
> > 
> > *snip
> > > It's ultra okay with me. I have no issue. I would deliver anything. If
> > the user want's it, why not? If the law is requesting/enforcing it, why not?
> > I don't see such a big issue. The only issue I see are the various
> > virus/trojans/etc. I bet that no matter how hard you try to tag or change 
> > the mail
> > (subject change, header change, etc) and warn the user: HE/SHE WILL INFECT
> > HIS/HER SYSTEM.
> > > Most user are to stupid to read AND understand.
> > Ha, fortuntly that don't count for virusses/trojanѕ and other harmful
> > content. According the Law you don't have to deliver harmful content
> >
> Please, please! Send me a definition of "harmful content". PLEASE! For my 
> data center and infrastructure the amount of spam is harmful. So. Does that 
> count as harmful? Or does it only count as harmful if the user says it is 
> harmful to him. If so, then how to know what a user "thinks" is harmful and 
> how to know that he thinks it is not harmful? How to know that the just sent 
> executable named "My_Super_Dupper_Ultra_Cool_KeyGen.exe" which is identified 
> by Trend Micro Virus Scan as an harmful executable (because the exe has some 
> memory patching part in it) is really not wanted by the user or is really 
> wanted by the user? How?
This is up to a judge. Sorry. 

> 
> 
> > (this
> > is
> > worded like "self-protection for your infrastructure"). The post also
> > don't
> > has to deliver letter bombs :). 
> > 
> Still! As a Swiss I really ask my self sometimes about the German obsession 
> in regulating things. It's insane. Filling my tax papers in Switzerland is 
> easy as 1-2-3. But in Germany? Boy! So much rules and and and... HORROR! And 
> now the stuff with mail and the "Hacker Paragraph"?
> I know. For you this all is normal since you grow up with that. But for me 
> this is insane. I accept your point of view. It's okay with me. But if I can 
> choose for me, then I would prefer to not have the situation.
Hey. I really hate that. As a german mail admin im only one step left from
jail. This is something I have to live with, not something I'm happy with. 

Alex
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