On 18 Jan 2012, at 07:53, Simone Tripodi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> thanks for the interest on that project!!!
>
> I can only quote Tommaso on asserting that
>
> * IP is the blocking issue - deeply involved people are working on
> it, hope to get a reply ASAP (we could ping them directly anyway to
> get feedbacks)
>
> * we never made a release: this is something concerning the previous point;

Yes, I agree with both of the above too.

I would be happy to approach the issue of IP myself, if our to local
committers would like assistance.


> * Shiro subproject is an option that really gets my interest, I am +1 on this

I am -0 myself. Having followed the incubator graduation thread too, I
think small project is no barrier to TLP.


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>
> Thanks a lot Kalle!
> all the best, have a nice day,
> -Simo
>
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> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Kalle Korhonen
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Tommaso Teofili
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Kalle,
>>> first of all, thanks for this, I was also monitoring that thread on
>>> general@and I agree we (Apache Amber) need to take some decision about
>>> project's
>>> future.
>>
>> No problem, just giving it as an option - I'd hate that you'd get
>> stuck in incubator, not realizing there are alternative ways to
>> graduate.
>>
>>> The only obstacle I see is the IP stuff which is keeping us from being able
>>> to make a release, and thus could block our graduation.
>>> I don't know Shiro enough to say if the 'subproject way' could be just
>>> good, however I think that it would be worth inspecting, considering also
>>> that Amber PMC is not that big (and it looks that Shiro PMC is not big
>>> either).
>>> What do others think?
>>
>> Big it doesn't need to be. Is the project and community viable, or
>> self-governing, is the question. If you have three active members, you
>> should absolutely go for TLP. Whoever is active on the project right
>> now should make it a priority to get the IP resolved. Staying in the
>> incubator for too long can wear you out; I'm speaking from experience
>> :)
>>
>> Kalle

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