On 12/3/2019 8:39 AM, John Rose wrote:
On Dec 3, 2019, at 8:31 AM, Alex Buckley <alex.buck...@oracle.com <mailto:alex.buck...@oracle.com>> wrote:

For example, if the Record.components[i].attributes table contains a Signature attribute, then that's fine per Table 4.7-C; but if said table contains a Code attribute, then the overall Record attribute is malformed, and I would expect a ClassFormatError as I would for a malformed descriptor in Signature. (I don't wish to rat-hole on whether HotSpot actually checks Signature so deeply. The purpose of Signature is clear, and aligned with the purpose of Record, and purpose is what should drive depth-of-check.)

As I argued in my just-sent mail, such purposes split into two parts:  The
purposes necessary for bytecode execution, and those necessary for reflection.
This leads to a middle ground of “reflectively invalid” attributes which can
nonetheless pass class file loading.

By "purpose", I mean the fundamental role of the attribute in the class file. That's what JVMS 4.7 seeks to document by offering three lists. A related but lower-level question is how much checking occurs at load time versus reflection time.

Let me step back. I don't disagree with anything you say. I agree that the second list, where Record lives because it's a Java language helper, should be shallowly checked so that the deep stuff is left to reflection (i.e. it could be "reflectively invalid" despite having passed class file format checking). What I am trying to do is help Chris understand the JVMS draft so he can ship in JDK 14 -- is there anything in section 4.7 of the draft that needs to be changed for JDK 14?

Alex

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