Hi Bev,

Thankyou for your response.

The questions I posed were not put forward to challenge the use of
netiquette on ambit but rather to raise the point of who should have a say
in defining the guidelines the list operates by.

It could be argued that all communicative processes are 'essentially'
collaborative (whether or not that collaboration is reciprocated).  My
point, however, was not directed so much towards the content of messages
passed on the list but rather as to the way in which the list is
'governed/managed' or 'practiced'.  The question could be rephrased: does
ambit operate according to collaborative (ie. democratic, 'open source')
principles, or 'top down' (ie. autocratic) principles?

The ambit netiquette was established prior to anyone joining the list.
That's fair enough, it's  an obvious practical step, but they have never
been subject to review by the list membership.

Several people on the list have made it clear that certain postings which
have been criticised as contrary to the netiquette were in fact meaningful
and useful to them.  Also, some of these messages have produced quite
fertile discussions (such as the CCA debate and some of Mark and Gair's
postings).

On one level my questions are perhaps trivial, this is after all 'only' a
mailing list, but on the other hand they are fundamental to people's sense
of 'ownership' of the list and participation within it.  The netiquette
defines a significant part of what ambit's identity is (even if it is only
intended as  casual guidelines rather than hard rules).  Giving people a
say in shaping the netiquette would fundamentally contribute to their
sense of 'belonging' to the list.

So when I ask is ambit a 'truly collaborative practice' my question is to
what extent are the views and varying degrees of participation within
ambit reflected in the list's identity and the way it is run?  Are we a
collaborative entity, integrating the views of the membership into our
'practice' or do we follow the top-down 'teacher - classroom (with unruly
kids)' model which some people have caricatured it as, or is the list some
amorphic flow building and dissipating with the whims of the members?

If you like I am taking the list itself as an example through which to
address this month's topic, particularly in regard to the notion of 'open
source' practices which are outlined in the articles at 

http://chinatown.twenteenthcentury.com/uua/index.php/CollaborativePractices 

which you posted to this list when proposing that theme, and which opens
with the following quote:

"...artist's research into alternative forms of social organization is
just as important as the traditional research into materials, processes,
and products."


The questions are not directed to yourself and Chris directly but rather
to the list as a whole. 


best wishes,
Si.


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