I prefer Keith Sanborn's analysis in the same forwarded message from <nettime>:

 Again, we have a form of clever advertising, something the brits are quite
 good at. Political critique that gets paid; or is it just someone wanting to
 get paid who uses political critique as a hook?

 It seems like another permutation of what Debord called "the integrated
 spectacle" and may even represent a new tactic--if not a new strategy--for
 commodifying dissent.

Chris


At 12:30 pm -0400 7/7/03, gair dunlop wrote:
the above being a definition of "ambit"
the idea of being "entrenched in cyberculture" takes on interesting connotations.
I wonder if it's worth thinking about who ambit people are?
who amongst us is embedded deeply in a network of different lists, boards, groups etc?
And if we are, what are the downsides of this: we think we're getting a diversity of viewpoints but they are a self re-inforcing circuit. If we get touchy about things being forwarded that "everybody knows/has seen already" then we're making a lot of assumptions about who "we" are and become a self-perpetuating elite...




Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 21:26:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Amy Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Google's Weapons of Mass Destruction

i understand how it can be annoying if the same joke arrives in one's
inbox repeatedly, but i think we shouldn't overlook the power of a
meme as a form of political resistance. i've received this one from
people who don't usually seem to question the war; it seems to be
hitting a nerve beyond the "preaching to the converted" crowd.

the meme is quickly moving beyond email circles into mainstream media
- reuters et al are now reporting it... search now for weapons of
mass destruction...
http://news.google.com/news?q=weapons+of+mass+destruction

as to whether the redundant forwarding is a symptom of info- or
cyber-dependency: the interesting thing is that each time someone
forwards it, it means that the sender has just received the message
for the first time - in most cases, the people who receive something
like this repeatedly are cyber-veterans with large
cyber-social-networks, whereas the senders are not very entrenched in
cyberculture (otherwise, they'd realize it was redundant and not send
it.)

so, whatever one's feelings on the dark humor, this seems to be
something that a lot of people from outside the usual net-active and
politically-active circles are hooking into. there's a lot of social
discomfort in the states about anti-war discussions since one can be
shunned by one's peers as a traitor. so memes and dark humor can be
icebreakers for a lot of people to start discussing these issues, and
that really needs to happen...

- -@


On Fri, 4 Jul 2003, Bill Spornitz wrote:


Co-Info-Dependents;

 I have enjoyed the e-rhythm washing ashore as this little info-fluff
 has arrived in my inbox about twice a day since it first came out on
 metafilter, or slashdot, or al-jazeera, or whatever, about 6 days ago.
> <...>

gair dunlop
www.gairspace.org.uk
Cumbernauld: Town for Tomorrow www.cumbernauld.nu


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