Michael --
"walking across a synthetic carpet etc., then contacting the components" (before touching the outside metal case) is, in fact, a very easy way to destroy a computer.  Been there, done that.
-- Keith

Michael.S.G. wrote:

Sorry Ara/Ken,
I think this is a non issue. Else we would be having static build up
just from all the FANs already in PC's.
More of a problem would be walking across a synthetic carpet etc then
contacting the components.
ATB
MSG

Ken Henderson wrote:
>
> The same applies when using a vacuum cleaner to suck up dust. It to,
> will create static.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Ara Kaloustian
> *Sent:* Sunday, 17 September 2006 1:31 AM
> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com
> *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
>
>
>
> Careful with compressed gases ... they can create a lot of static
> electricity, unless they are designed specifically not to.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Landry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]net
> <mailto:jelandry%40sbcglobal.net>>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
>
> > Hi Yuki:
> >
> > My tech friends use cans of compressed gas to blow off the accumulation,
> > rather than
> > risking sucking up the cpu chip or fan off of it's zip socket with a
> > vacuum
> > cleaner or poking around with a
> > toothpick.
> > I'm sure it's not chlorofluorocarbon gas in today's environment and the
> > gas
> > is said to be non ozone depleting.
> > DusterT II Compressed Gas Air Duster, 10-oz. Can from Kensington.
> >
> > Best regards
> > JOE
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yuki Taga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]att.ne.jp
> <mailto:yukitaga%40tkh.att.ne.jp>>
> > To: "Keith McCombs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com
> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
> >
> >
> >> Hi Keith,
> >>
> >> Anybody know how to get a P4 fan/heatsink off?
> >>
> >> I put it on (I built the box), and of course I'm aware of the two
> >> primary levers that release it, but it's a partial release, not a
> >> complete one, and I can't remember exactly how to get that thing off,
> >> and I'm not into yanking stuff off the MB. ^_^
> >>
> >> With a flashlight, I can see some accumulation between the fins of
> >> the heat sink (beyond the fan) that have to be taken care of. What
> >> has happened is that some dust has actually formed a curtain over the
> >> top of some of the fins, which of course is really cutting down on
> >> the airflow. I used a toothpick to gently dislodge some of it, and
> >> then vacuumed. But I think a more thorough job is called for. There
> >> are no more curtains, but I can see dust.
> >>
> >> I have been remiss about keeping my eye on the CPU temp. It's always
> >> run a bit on the hot side (mid 40s), and lately it's been sneaking
> >> higher, and I haven't paid enough attention to it. This little bit
> >> of cleaning I did dropped the temp SIX DEGREES C, so no minor deal.
> >>
> >> There are AB routines that will take the temp up 20 from its ambient,
> >> so I need to be more careful. The only thing I've got monitoring it
> >> is the old Motherboard Monitor, which is not supported any longer. It
> >> gives me board and CPU temps, however.
> >>
> >> So a key question for me at this point would be, does a CPU just go,
> >> or does it degrade, giving intermittent problems, because of long
> >> term overheating? Given what I saw under the flashlight, I've been
> >> slowly cooking this, and if a CPU degrades, rather than just fails,
> >> that is most likely the seat of the problem.
> >>
> >> It isn't like I never clean the box, either. And I've put a vacuum
> >> on that CPU fan before. I've always been tentative about that
> >> however, because it actually reverses the fan blade action from it's
> >> normal direction, which is to suck air in over the fins. I've also
> >> blown compressed air in there, but tentatively there, too, because
> >> compressed air can get pretty cold in a hurry (at least the can
> >> does), and I don't know just what damage I might be doing along with
> >> the good. Without a flashlight, it just wasn't too obvious what was
> >> building up in there that the vacuum could not pull out. Once
> >> dislodged though, a lot of stuff came out. But there is more dust in
> >> there.
> >>
> >> Maybe I'm better off replacing the CPU, which would have to be pretty
> >> cheap now, if I could even find one (P4 2.53 GHz).
> >>
> >> Thanks all,
> >>
> >> Yuki
> >>
> >> Saturday, September 16, 2006, 3:28:59 PM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> KM> Like Rik, I too have had CPU overheating problems. I have a small
> >> KM> utility that came with my computer that shows and records
> >> temperatures.
> >> KM> If you have such, give it a try. Recently I fixed my problems
> >> (computer
> >> KM> shutting down completely during evening virus scans), by
> cleaning the
> >> KM> heat sink and fan. I also used new grease between the fan and cpu,
> >> but
> >> KM> only because I had to remove the fan in order to get two years of
> >> dust
> >> KM> bunnies out of it.
> >>
> >> KM> BTW, right now I have my "red line" set for 70 C. Normally the CPU
> >> runs
> >> KM> at 40 C, but during 1 hour full virus scan it gets up to 55 C.
> >>
> >> KM> Hope this helps.
> >> KM> -- Keith
> >>
> >> KM> Rik Rasmussen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have had two pc's running XP develop problems that ended up being
> >>>> the fan
> >>>> on the CPU. In one case it had stopped and the cpu overheated. In the
> >>>> ohter
> >>>> case, the fan was apparently running too slow to cool.
> >>>>
> >>>> In both cases replacing the cpu fan fixed the problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rik Rasmussen
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Yuki
> >>
> >>
> >>
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