I've found the built-in spam filters on yahoo mail to be excellent as well. I don't bother with any spam filtering on my PC other than what's included in outlook and/or thunderbird.
----- Original Message ---- From: J. Biran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 1:53:05 PM Subject: RE: [amibroker] Another Hard Bounce I use Trend Micro's PC-cillin 2007 Internet Security which includes a spam filter. At the beginning I had to "unfilter" one or two valid senders, by today I don't bother to read anything in the spam folder, I just delete everything. Between it and Outlook built in Junk-mail filter I see maybe 5 spam messages a week (there could be 60-90 of them a day). Joseph Biran ____________ _________ _________ _________ _____ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of Yuki Taga Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:35 AM To: Edward Pottasch Subject: Re: [amibroker] Another Hard Bounce Ed, Nobody is ever going to accuse me of being the master about this subject. ^_^ But I would do the following: 1) Get a Bayesian filtering program. (I use K-9.) 2) Never use anything that produces bounces. 3) Use a whitelist. 4) Use a blacklist, too. Generally, my combination gets about 99.75 percent correct. Yes, I get some false negatives (SPAM that is not identified as SPAM). More rarely, the false positive (identified as SPAM that isn't). But all the identified-as- SPAM mail goes to the trash, where I can analyze it in seconds. "Unprotected" , I don't know. But bouncing SPAM email is a no-no. You are bouncing messages to people that had *nothing* to do with the original message. Much better to silently accept, filter, and dispose. Never, ever, acknowledge receipt of SPAM. A bounce, should it even go to the true sender (highly unlikely), would do just that. Simply ignore. Delete and forget. Bayesian filters are impossible to defeat. They can be circumvented, temporarily, but they "learn". Every time they mess up, you teach them. They get "smarter". Yuki Sunday, January 14, 2007, 7:24:40 PM, you wrote: EP> hi Yuki, EP> so then turning the spam filter off indeed solves the problem. I EP> did not see any use for it since almost all my incoming messages EP> were labelled SPAM. Turning it off seems to work for me although EP> McAfee gives a message that my system is now "unprotected" .... EP> regards, Ed EP> ----- Original Message ----- EP> From: Yuki Taga EP> To: Edward Pottasch EP> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:56 AM EP> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Another Hard Bounce EP> Hi Ed, EP> Sunday, January 14, 2007, 5:50:03 PM, you wrote: EP> EP> hi, EP> EP> what is the reason for these hard bounces? I have them as well. EP> EP> However when I set the "Email Spam Security" Off, of my McAfee EP> EP> security center I did not -yet- have any bounces. I EP> thought the reason was on my side .... EP> There are some anti-SPAM programs that try to combat SPAM by bouncing EP> messages. This is a really *bad* idea of course, because almost all EP> return email addresses on SPAM are forgeries. Bouncing simply clogs EP> up the network with packets that mean nothing to anyone. EP> Perhaps this is what Yahoo! means by "hard bounce". I'm not sure. Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: http://www.amibroke r.com/devlog/ For other support material please check also: http://www.amibroke r.com/support. html Yahoo! 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