I think the misunderstanding is in the pudding Ray. With MAHULL there is no 
continuation issue. MAHULL gives you a more ore less centered MA with a more or 
less correct prediction from N/2 through actual. So just use MAHULL as your 
centered MA and try to cross with a normal MA. Look to my chart. It's doing 
something ... as long as the trend is strong enough to keep you out of the 
'wip' losses ...

I just do not understand why you are not getting the attached chart. I am 
getting a confirmation from the forum of my email and it has the chart 
attached. So somewhere somehow Murphy ( the other guy ) is involved ...

Regards, Ton.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ax_ray2222 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:33 AM
  Subject: [amibroker] Re: Need help with formula, please...


  Ton, thank you for that, it is same formula I use and it has same 
  issue: it is not a smooth continuation of the DMA(P,-P/2.
  I guess I have to give up as I can't get an answer from the AB support

  Also the pdf file didn't make it either, any files seems they got 
  deleted if they are not posted (loaded) in the Files folder.

  Thank you for your help,
  Ray

  --- In [email protected], "Ton Sieverding" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > OK. Here it is. But this is the 100% same formula you can find in 
  the AB Library. And this
  > time the chart attached as PDF in stead of JPG ...
  > 
  > Hull = WMA( 2*WMA(C,int(Period/2)) - WMA(C,Period),int(sqrt
  (Period)));
  > 
  > Regards, Ton.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: ax_ray2222 
  > To: [email protected] 
  > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:44 AM
  > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Need help with formula, please...
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Ton, the chart didn't make it, seems that they are some filters 
  to don't attached it, maybe you upload it in the Files folder. Can 
  you post the entire formula you used for that chart, please? 
  > I'd like to compare it with what I used here and why is not 
  working on some symbols.
  > Thank you, Ray
  > 
  > --- In [email protected], "Ton Sieverding" 
  <ton.sieverding@> wrote:
  > >
  > > Please find enclosed Chart for TEX with Hull(56) and MA(28) ...
  > > 
  > > Regards, Ton.
  > > 
  > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > From: ax_ray2222 
  > > To: [email protected] 
  > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 2:26 AM
  > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Need help with formula, please...
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Hello, i tried Hull MA for the last 14 days as a continuation 
  MA for the negative displaced MA (DMA(28,-14) but it is not making a 
  smooth transition or connection with the DMA.
  > > Stockfetcher.com and Prophet.net are the only ones I know that 
  they cna display a nice smoothed DMA including the last 14 days, here 
  is a link to see a chart on Prophet.net to understand what I try to 
  achieve in AB:
  > > 
  > > http://www.prophet.net/analyze/sc.jsp?
  symbol=TEX&duration=6m&frequency=0&size=468,700&pricedisplay=&page=sna
  pcharts&log=1&redbars=0&hidevolume=0&hideevents=0&hidestudies=0&studie
  s=EMA=11,,;DMA=28,-14,;&scheme=blugray&controls=advanced
  > > 
  > > Any other ideas will be appreciated
  > > thank you, ray
  > > 
  > > --- In [email protected], "ax_ray2222" ax_ray2222@ 
  wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Rakesh, what is DE? I try to find something in Files section 
  by 
  > > > fctonetti ( I guesses is Fred) but could not find anything 
  related to 
  > > > DMA or the extra window what I questioned.
  > > > I do apreciate if you could pinpoint this out,
  > > > Ray
  > > > 
  > > > --- In [email protected], "Rakesh Sahgal" 
  rakeshsahgal@ 
  > > > wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > > search for code by Fred Tonetti in files section. this is 
  the best
  > > > > implementation of DE I have seen so far.
  > > > > 
  > > > > On 6/19/07, ax_ray2222 ax_ray2222@ wro te:
  > > > > >
  > > > > > Thank you Bill for such a quick reply, I'll try to have a 
  look at
  > > > > > both codes and see if I can make any sense in how to use 
  them, as 
  > > > I
  > > > > > am not very good at programming, and still testing AB to 
  see if it
  > > > > > will suit me....so far the response here on the board is 
  > > > overwelming
  > > > > > and I'd like to thank everyone for their kindness in 
  helping 
  > > > novices
  > > > > > as myself....
  > > > > >
  > > > > > I posted another question regarding a possibility of 
  another 
  > > > window
  > > > > > display in AB under the charts, where to have (as choosen 
  fields) 
  > > > the
  > > > > > data needed for the charted stock as PE, EPS,RS,....etc
  > > > > > Any idea if this is possible?
  > > > > >
  > > > > > regards,
  > > > > > Ray
  > > > > >
  > > > > > --- In [email protected], "wavemechanic" 
  <fimdot@> wrote:
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > There is some code by acesheet for centered moving 
  averages in 
  > > > the
  > > > > > archives under Hurst/Sigma discussions. You can also find 
  some 
  > > > code
  > > > > > at WealthLab (http://www.wealth-lab.com/cgi-
  > > > > > bin/WealthLab.DLL/editsy stem?id=19072).
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > Bill
  > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > > > > > From: Ton Sieverding
  > > > > > > To: [email protected]
  > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:47 AM
  > > > > > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Need help with formula, 
  please...
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > So am I, Ray. As far as I understand, what the form ula 
  DMA
  > > > (28,-
  > > > > > 14) does is the combination of shifting back in time ( -
  14) the MA
  > > > > > (28) and extrapolating the unknown part from the center 
  of the
  > > > > > average ( -14 ) thru actual. The first part is a simple 
  Ref( -
  > > > 14 ).
  > > > > > For the last part see Hull's Moving Average. Should be in 
  the AB
  > > > > > library. It's one way to do that. Getting the bars 
  between the 
  > > > center
  > > > > > and today. Although there are many other possibilities 
  and all are
  > > > > > trying to predict the same future. Also see GP's answer 
  to your
  > > > > > question ...
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > Regards, Ton.
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > > > > > From: ax_ray2222
  > > > > > > To: [email protected]
  > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:00 PM
  > > > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Need help with formula, 
  please...
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > Ton, I am way beyond entry level in AB and in general in
  > > > > > programming,
  > > > > > > so if you are so kind, please help and display the 
  formula 
  > > > you
  > > > > > refer
  > > > > > > to, cause I don't quite follow.....sorry about that...
  > > > > > > thank you, Ray
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ton Sieverdi ng"
  > > > > > > <ton.sieverding@> wrote:
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > Hurst. Centered moving averages ...
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > Regards, Ton.
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----> > > > > > From: 
  gp_sydney
  > > > > > > > To: [email protected]
  > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:02 AM
  > > > > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Need help with formula, 
  please...
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't understand what you're asking. I 
  haven't 
  > > > used
  > > > > > > > stockfetcher. What does DMA(28,-14) mean?
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > You can just use the Cross function to check for 
  > > > crossovers.
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > GP
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "ax_ray2222" 
  > > > <ax_ray2222@>
  > > > > > > wrote:
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > GP, thank you for the help, I want to make a 
  > > > continuation
  > > > > > of
  > > > > > > the
  > > > > > > > > Displaced MA(28,-14) and with your help it will do 
  this 
  > > > for
  > > > > > the
  > > > > > > last 14
  > > > > > > > > days but it seems that it is verticaly displaced. 
  Is any
  > > > > > way we
  > > > > > > can
  > > > > > > > > make this to plot in the continuation of the DMA
  (28,-
  > > > 14).
  > > > > > I'll
  > > > > > > put here
  > > > > > > > > the entire code I have at the moment, and if you 
  used
  > > > > > > stockfetcher.com
  > > > > > > > > you can see the DMA(28,-14) there:
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > _SECTIO N_BEGIN("DispMA");
  > > > > > > > > P = ParamField("Field");
  > > > > > > > > Type = ParamList("Type", "Simple,Exponential,Double
  > > > > > > Exponential,Tripple
  > > > > > > > > Exponential,Wilders,Weighted");
  > > > > > > > > Periods = Param("Periods", 30, 2, 100 );
  > > > > > > > > Displacement = Param("Displacement", 15, -50, 50 );
  > > > > > > > > m = 0;
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > if( Type == "Simple" ) m = MA( P,
  > > > > > > > > Periods );
  > > > > > > > > if( Type == "Exponential" ) m = EMA( P, Periods );
  > > > > > > > > if( Type == "Double Exponential" ) m = DEMA( P, 
  > > > Periods );
  > > > > > > > > if( Type == "Tripple Exponential" ) m = TEMA( P, 
  > > > Periods );
  > > > > > > > > if( Type == "Wilders" ) m = Wilders( P,
  > > > > > > > > Periods );
  > > > > > > > > if( Type == "Weighted" ) m = WMA( P,
  > > > > > > > > Periods );
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > Plot( m, _DEFAULT_NAME(), ParamColor("Color", 
  > > > ColorCycle),
  > > > > > > ParamStyle
  > > > > > > > > ("Style"), 0, 0, Displacement );
  > > > > > > > > bi = BarIndex();
  > > > > > > > > s5 = IIf(bi-bi[0] >= BarCount-14, MA(Close, 14), 
  Null);
  > > > > > > > > Plot( s5,_DEFAULT_NAME(), ParamColor("Color", 
  > > > ColorCycle),
  > > > > > > ParamStyle
  > > > > > > > > ("Style") );
  > > > > > > > > _SECTION_END();
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > I'd like to be able to scan for the crossovers of 
  the 
  > > > DMA
  > > > > > with
  > > > > & gt; > an EMA
  > > > > > > > > (9) for example, and thst will happend only during 
  the 
  > > > last
  > > > > > 14
  > > > > > > days, so
  > > > > > > > > it will be actually a crossover of the s5 with the 
  EMA
  > > > (9) I
  > > > > > > guess.
  > > > > > > > > Do you any idea on this?
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > thanks a lot, Ray
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] , "gp_sydney"
  > > > > > <gp.investment@>
  > > > > > > wrote:
  > > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I just noticed there's a new function 
  > > > called
  > > > > > > BarIndex()
  > > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > > Sorry, just realised this is not a new function 
  (got
  > > > > > confused
  > > > > > > by the
  > > > > > > > > > red star in the help) and that according to the 
  help, 
  > > > it
  > > > > > may
  > > > > > > not be
  > > > > > > > > > accurate if QuickAFL is on. So if using that, I 
  think 
  > > > you
  > > > > > > might need:
  > > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > > bi = BarIndex();
  > > > > > > > > > s5 = IIf(bi-bi[0] >= BarCount-14, MA(Close, 5), 
  Null);
  > > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > > GP
  > > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > >
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