Brian, On which forum do you discuss philosophical topics?
BR, Dennis On Mar 23, 2008, at 7:34 AM, brian_z111 wrote: > I stuck my neck out, by going OT on the philosophical aspect, for > Ron, who has shown a kind disposition towards me in the past (I also > owe everything to my constituency "who I live for"). > > Anyone who searches Wikipedia for "holism", "hologram" > and "correspondence(s)", for example, will find amble examples > (soundbites) on either a philosphical or mundane (trading) level, and > very good examples at that. > > I am not going to go any further on the philosophcial expostion in > this forum though. > >> Hmm... From a practical point of view, how would you apply this >> philosophical reflexion to trading? > > The discounted value of future earnings to PV is the rational market. > > The skewed market is the irrational market. > > This is how the unversal reality of dualism plays out in this sphere > of human activity. > >> I mean: if I want to trade hourly, should I concentrate on >> breakouts or >> moving averages in your opinion? > > In modern western culture we are very direct. > In some cultures, rather than offend, they will give an evasive > answer rather than tell someone they are wrong. > > In my case, an evasive answer means "think a bit further on the > subject". > > brian_z > > > --- In [email protected], "Louis Préfontaine" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Hmm... From a practical point of view, how would you apply this >> philosophical reflexion to trading? >> >> I mean: if I want to trade hourly, should I concentrate on > breakouts or >> moving averages in your opinion? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Louis >> >> 2008/3/21, brian_z111 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>> (Subjective) investigations into the 'human condition' have been >>> going on, in parallel with our search for objective truths, as > long >>> as humanity has been around. >>> >>> This body of information has been collected and preserved, by the >>> few, for the benefit of mankind (the many) and consitutes a > SCIENCE >>> to its guardians, adherents and students. >>> >>> From that body of WISDOM two principles can be extracted that are >>> relevant to your comments: >>> >>> holism is universally persistent (all things are made in the > IMAGE of >>> the creator) >>> >>> and, >>> >>> flowing from that, we derive the principle of CORRESPONDENCE >>> (operating principles in one sphere, have their corresponding >>> principle in another)... >>> >>> ...but that is going to far OT. >>> >>> Over to trading (OR how the above relates to trading): >>> >>> Over the long term the bias of the (stock) market is a function of >>> the earnings performance of the component companies. >>> >>> This is skewed by the behaviour of market participants, which >>> introduces randomness to the markets. >>> >>> The shorter the timeframe the more dominant is 'randomness' > (which of >>> course is not true randomness). >>> >>> (If you are interested in the subject of organising principles and >>> holism Carl Jung's work on Psychological Archetypes is a wonderful >>> example of how the universal paradigms play out in the affairs of >>> wo/mankind). >>> >>> brian_z *:-) >>> >>> >>> --- In [email protected] <amibroker% > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Ronald >>> Davis" <xokie7@> wrote: >>>> >>>> I maintain the view that algorithms exist in nature, and that >>> people who develop algorighms are only discovering another one of >>> nature's secrets. >>>> >>>> When my son first showed me Amibroker several years ago, I > looked >>> at charts with Stochastics, and RSI, and I became convinced that >>> mother nature has algorithms that can find the central core of > all of >>> that volatility. >>>> >>>> I have yet to discover mother nature's algorighms, but my > attempts >>> have led me to some conclusions. >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> ------ >>>> >>>> My results WERE BEST when I "AVERAGED THE LAST SEVERAL HUNDRED > DAYS >>> OF ACTIVITY" >>>> >>>> and watched the LAST 9 DAYS>of the performance of this average > of >>> hundreds of days. >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> ------ >>>> >>>> My results WERE LESS GOOD when I "AVERAGED OF LAST 9 DAYS OF >>> ACTIVITY" >>>> >>>> and watched the LAST 9 DAYS>of the performance of this average > of >>> only 9 days. >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- >>>> >>>> Hope this helps someone. Ron D >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---------------------------- >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Louis Préfontaine >>>> To: [email protected] <amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:25 PM >>>> Subject: [amibroker] Philosophical question >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi group, >>>> >>>> I just began reading Howard Bandy's book (even though I did not >>> finish Aronson's book yet...), and a somehow philosophical > question >>> came to my mind when he speaks about the market's inefficiency and >>> how we must take advantage of it. He talks both about moving >>> averages and breakout, and I was wondering which one of the two >>> techniques do you think is the more promising for such a system? >>>> >>>> I ask this because as far as subjective technical analysis is >>> concerned, I am more used with breakout techniques. But the real >>> inefficiency in breakout techniques comes from time, that is if > one >>> can act quickly enough to make a profit from the sudden change in >>> price. But from my experience it seems to be more difficult with > EOD >>> or hourly data. And it is less profitable for someone (like me) > who >>> is using options, which tend to anticipate the change quicker > than it >>> really happens. >>>> >>>> Moving averages techniques, on the other side, seems a bit >>> mystical to me, and maybe a bit too simple or too « easy ». I > don't >>> know much about them... >>>> >>>> But anyway, my question is: which one of those two techniques do >>> you prefer, or do you use both for entering a trade, or shorting a >>> trade? What can be a good way to trade for someone (like me) who >>> wants to trade hourly data and can't always get the beginning of a >>> breakout? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Louis >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ > > For other support material please check also: > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
