Brian, From all your posting, helping others, and UKB work, I was wondering when you found the time to post elsewhere. My goals are not that different, and my focus is also one thing at a time. Right now it is tax calculations :(
BR, Dennis On Mar 23, 2008, at 7:52 PM, brian_z111 wrote: > Dennis, > > This is my one and only forum. > I don't have much to say to anyone on the subject, at the moment. > I'm focused on trading (I like to do one project at a time and give > it everything). > > When I retire from trading I hope to take a public stance, via a > philanthropical project that I have on the drawing board (my final > project that will take me out). > > We can philosophize all day, even in trading, but what we do about it > is what counts. Like you, I want to focus on developing product and > the UKB/forum is just my community tithe. > > Thanks for your interest and what you are contributing here, > > brian_z > > --- In [email protected], Dennis Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Brian, >> >> On which forum do you discuss philosophical topics? >> >> BR, >> Dennis >> >> On Mar 23, 2008, at 7:34 AM, brian_z111 wrote: >>> I stuck my neck out, by going OT on the philosophical aspect, for >>> Ron, who has shown a kind disposition towards me in the past (I > also >>> owe everything to my constituency "who I live for"). >>> >>> Anyone who searches Wikipedia for "holism", "hologram" >>> and "correspondence(s)", for example, will find amble examples >>> (soundbites) on either a philosphical or mundane (trading) level, > and >>> very good examples at that. >>> >>> I am not going to go any further on the philosophcial expostion in >>> this forum though. >>> >>>> Hmm... From a practical point of view, how would you apply this >>>> philosophical reflexion to trading? >>> >>> The discounted value of future earnings to PV is the rational > market. >>> >>> The skewed market is the irrational market. >>> >>> This is how the unversal reality of dualism plays out in this > sphere >>> of human activity. >>> >>>> I mean: if I want to trade hourly, should I concentrate on >>>> breakouts or >>>> moving averages in your opinion? >>> >>> In modern western culture we are very direct. >>> In some cultures, rather than offend, they will give an evasive >>> answer rather than tell someone they are wrong. >>> >>> In my case, an evasive answer means "think a bit further on the >>> subject". >>> >>> brian_z >>> >>> >>> --- In [email protected], "Louis Préfontaine" >>> <rockprog80@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Hmm... From a practical point of view, how would you apply this >>>> philosophical reflexion to trading? >>>> >>>> I mean: if I want to trade hourly, should I concentrate on >>> breakouts or >>>> moving averages in your opinion? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Louis >>>> >>>> 2008/3/21, brian_z111 <brian_z111@>: >>>>> >>>>> (Subjective) investigations into the 'human condition' have > been >>>>> going on, in parallel with our search for objective truths, as >>> long >>>>> as humanity has been around. >>>>> >>>>> This body of information has been collected and preserved, by > the >>>>> few, for the benefit of mankind (the many) and consitutes a >>> SCIENCE >>>>> to its guardians, adherents and students. >>>>> >>>>> From that body of WISDOM two principles can be extracted that > are >>>>> relevant to your comments: >>>>> >>>>> holism is universally persistent (all things are made in the >>> IMAGE of >>>>> the creator) >>>>> >>>>> and, >>>>> >>>>> flowing from that, we derive the principle of CORRESPONDENCE >>>>> (operating principles in one sphere, have their corresponding >>>>> principle in another)... >>>>> >>>>> ...but that is going to far OT. >>>>> >>>>> Over to trading (OR how the above relates to trading): >>>>> >>>>> Over the long term the bias of the (stock) market is a function > of >>>>> the earnings performance of the component companies. >>>>> >>>>> This is skewed by the behaviour of market participants, which >>>>> introduces randomness to the markets. >>>>> >>>>> The shorter the timeframe the more dominant is 'randomness' >>> (which of >>>>> course is not true randomness). >>>>> >>>>> (If you are interested in the subject of organising principles > and >>>>> holism Carl Jung's work on Psychological Archetypes is a > wonderful >>>>> example of how the universal paradigms play out in the affairs > of >>>>> wo/mankind). >>>>> >>>>> brian_z *:-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- In [email protected] <amibroker% >>> 40yahoogroups.com>, "Ronald >>>>> Davis" <xokie7@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I maintain the view that algorithms exist in nature, and that >>>>> people who develop algorighms are only discovering another one > of >>>>> nature's secrets. >>>>>> >>>>>> When my son first showed me Amibroker several years ago, I >>> looked >>>>> at charts with Stochastics, and RSI, and I became convinced that >>>>> mother nature has algorithms that can find the central core of >>> all of >>>>> that volatility. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have yet to discover mother nature's algorighms, but my >>> attempts >>>>> have led me to some conclusions. >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ------ >>>>>> >>>>>> My results WERE BEST when I "AVERAGED THE LAST SEVERAL HUNDRED >>> DAYS >>>>> OF ACTIVITY" >>>>>> >>>>>> and watched the LAST 9 DAYS>of the performance of this average >>> of >>>>> hundreds of days. >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ------ >>>>>> >>>>>> My results WERE LESS GOOD when I "AVERAGED OF LAST 9 DAYS OF >>>>> ACTIVITY" >>>>>> >>>>>> and watched the LAST 9 DAYS>of the performance of this average >>> of >>>>> only 9 days. >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ----- >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps someone. Ron D >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Louis Préfontaine >>>>>> To: [email protected] <amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:25 PM >>>>>> Subject: [amibroker] Philosophical question >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi group, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just began reading Howard Bandy's book (even though I did not >>>>> finish Aronson's book yet...), and a somehow philosophical >>> question >>>>> came to my mind when he speaks about the market's inefficiency > and >>>>> how we must take advantage of it. He talks both about moving >>>>> averages and breakout, and I was wondering which one of the two >>>>> techniques do you think is the more promising for such a system? >>>>>> >>>>>> I ask this because as far as subjective technical analysis is >>>>> concerned, I am more used with breakout techniques. But the real >>>>> inefficiency in breakout techniques comes from time, that is if >>> one >>>>> can act quickly enough to make a profit from the sudden change > in >>>>> price. But from my experience it seems to be more difficult with >>> EOD >>>>> or hourly data. And it is less profitable for someone (like me) >>> who >>>>> is using options, which tend to anticipate the change quicker >>> than it >>>>> really happens. >>>>>> >>>>>> Moving averages techniques, on the other side, seems a bit >>>>> mystical to me, and maybe a bit too simple or too « easy ». I >>> don't >>>>> know much about them... >>>>>> >>>>>> But anyway, my question is: which one of those two techniques > do >>>>> you prefer, or do you use both for entering a trade, or > shorting a >>>>> trade? What can be a good way to trade for someone (like me) who >>>>> wants to trade hourly data and can't always get the beginning > of a >>>>> breakout? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Louis >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. >>> >>> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to >>> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >>> >>> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: >>> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ >>> >>> For other support material please check also: >>> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html >>> Yahoo! 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