Herman, That is what I did. I had Graham write the trading part of my formula. Then after manually trading it, I wanted to auto trade it and I had Barry write the auto trading part. I must say that I am very happy with my formula. It is working great. I would recommend that if you have a "system" have a formula written for it. By the way, you also help me with writting my formula. you posted an auto trading formula that I used to help test it before I had Barry write me the complete formula.
Thanks, Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Herman To: Louis P. Cc: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:14 AM Subject: Re[2]: SV: SV: [amibroker] Anyone actually making money? Perhaps, but if your 'system' is working and you 'believe in it' you can have someone code it for you. The price should be worth it. Also, to have this done you don't really have to reveal your secret formula, just change a few critical points. It doesn't matter for the programmer whether he writes a system that makes money or not. He doesn't care; the effort is the same. best regards, herman Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:07:28 AM, you wrote: > But it's very difficult to do... 2008/8/3 Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Jan, some of us will never reach that required state of detachment. I am like that: discretionary trading is just too stressful for me. If one cannot reach the required state of detachment the alternative is to learn afl and trade a mechanical system, and place orders through the IBc. If a trading system cannot be coded in AB one might wonder if there is a trading system at all. Luck, being in the market at the right time, or having an undefinable sixth sense about where the market is going, can easily be confused with having a good trading system. There are so many traders that luck, or any derivative thereof, must occur with often. I personally had a lucky streak that lasted 600 trades... I would have sworn I had the perfect system. I still have trouble accepting there wasn't anything real in the system. Mechanizing and Backtesting a trading system is one way to find out what your "system" is all about. Best regards, herman Sunday, August 3, 2008, 10:28:24 AM, you wrote: > Hi, Well, I had 6 years of martial arts training, where I understood (but unfortunately not yet attained) the principle of "no-mind" when executing tasks. I have also had some limited time as a military instructor, and it became obvious that during patrol and combat, when people fire at you (blanks and smoke grenades, but still), there ones who make it are the ones who do not take the time to think. However, ones ability to enter this state of mind is dependent on having enough training so that you subconsciously know that you really do not have to think about how to move and shoot properly. Of the Tekki Shodan pattern, the ancient warriors said something to the effect of "Most patterns require at least 10 000 executions before being mastered. However, you should not even consider demonstrating Tekki Shodan to your master before you have had 100 000 repetitions." It is interesting to note that to reach the original state of mind while carrying out un-natural activities, you do need lots of training, and that some things in every field are a lot more difficult than the average task in that skill set. Best regards / JM ------------------------------------------------------------ Från: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För brian_z111 Skickat: den 1 augusti 2008 05:32 Till: [email protected] Ämne: Re: SV: [amibroker] Anyone actually making money? > 3. Level of spiritual attainment. Semantics plays a part in any discussion, especially when we are crossing cultures etc. It plays a greater role in 'spiritual' discussion than it does in any other. So, first the semantics. We are not limited to the term 'spirituality' as we can talk around the same area in many different terms (objective mind/subjective mind, rational/intuitive, super-consciousness, super-rationality the collective unconscious, God, the Soul, the Divine, the Supreme and millions more). For ease of discussion I will stick with 'spirituality'. A few basic points: - generally the 'spiritual gene' is latent in humanity, across all cultures - it is more virile in a small % - it is particularly latent in the West/modern culture where we have turned our back on our spirituality - I dare say this forum has more than its share of latent spirituality under the surface - the psychic opposites are not antagonistic forces e.g. soul versus body but rather a complimentary whole so that is not a matter of logic/programming trading versus intuitive/discretionary trading. We are all using both, at different times and places, even those who deny it (there is no such thing as a 100% objective/rational person). - a healthy psyche has a good balance and flows between each psychic pole in its own season. The main pragmatic points: - we can't bootstrap our subjective mind so we have to turn to mentors for written or oral teaching - some have more aptitude for it than others - I was very priviliged to have some experience in these matters long before I started trading (my subjective consciousness/soul was already active and able to express itself in the world) but it still took years of pragmatic, practical, objective work to 'program' the trading mind to match i.e. I had to pass a sufficient number of exams, in the core units, at the 'University of Trading', before I could 'enter the trading zone'. In laymans terms, my intuitive mind was functioning but I still had to go out and tediously train my rational/objective mind, and learn as many of the objective rules of trading as I could, before the subjective and the objective minds could synchronize in the trading room. "Give unto Caeser that which is Caesers AND give homage to your God". brian_z --- In [email protected], "Jan Malmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I sometimes daytrade using even delayed data for the charts, and a list > compiled list stored in my broker's web application. It works alright. Most > of the time I do short-to-mid-term swing trading. With just the 15- min > delayed data. Ok, real-time for the indexes. > > > > Here's my opinion. > > > > The three components that determine your success are usually: > > 1. Level of analysis. How good you can produce low-risk entries with a > probable future outcome, which of course is never totally possible. > 2. Level of money management. How much you bet on one single trade, how > well you scale in, scale out, set and stick to stop-orders, and more. > 3. Level of spiritual attainment. How much you have attained the > "no-mind" state of the ancient warriors and spiritually achieved people. > Which means that you fearlessly execute trades while maintaining a > risk-appropriate behavior. Only really possible when you no longer fear the > horrible market and what it might do to you. > > > > Which one is most important? The one you lack the most at the moment. I was > fortunate to start out with fairly solid money management from the start. > > > > Best regards / JM > > > > > > > _____ > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Louis P. > Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 2:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [amibroker] Anyone actually making money? > > Hi, > > I was only wondering... Anyone actually making money or making a living > with AB and trading? > > I've been working on ideas and plans for over 7 months now and didn't find > anything convincing yet. I've been searching daily data, then hourly, > 15-minute and now I am into 1-minute data and nothing seems satisfying. > Been searching RSI, MFI, ADX, MA, HHV, LLV... nothing seems to work. > > So... Anyone is making consistent money with this, and if so, at which > timeframe and how do you do it? > > I'm beginning to think about switching to tick database; it seems even > 1-minute is too slow for intraday trading. Anyone making money with > 1-minute? > > Thanks, > > Louis >
