Hello,

To find out stability of the solution you should perform small exhaustive 
search near the solution point (it could be as small as +/- one step
in each dimension)
Without that it is just guessing.

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Dugas 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [amibroker] CMAE question


  Thank you TJ - Would you mind answering one more question about the results?  
Suppose I am optimizing on CAR. And when the CMAE opt is done, the first line 
shows 200%, followed by a bunch of lines at 100% with closely related params.  
In exhaustive opt, I would ignore the 200% in favor of all the 100%'s.  In CMAE 
opt, does the fact that it returned one 200% line mean that it has found some 
sort of a plateau around those param values - i.e., would you consider trying 
those param values going forward? Thanks very much!

  Steve
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Tomasz Janeczko 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 3:24 PM
    Subject: Re: [amibroker] CMAE question


    Hello,

    Zero as default is good. In that case internally it is set to 900 * square 
of ( number of params + 3 ). 

    As for Runs you should never go beyond 10 because of exponential growth of 
search space.

    Runs 31 means 2^31 (=2147483648 ) times larger search. Makes no sense.

    Best regards,
    Tomasz Janeczko
    amibroker.com
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Steve Dugas 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 8:52 PM
      Subject: Re: [amibroker] CMAE question


      Hi TJ - I read in the ReadMe that the default for MaxEval is 0, and it is 
advised not to change it. If I define it myself as 0, is that different from 
not defining it at all and just accepting the default?

      Yes, I read that it is advised not to go over 10 runs, but in 
experimenting, Runs = 31 and MaxEval = 0 seems to return quite good and 
consistant results whereas 5 or 10 runs seems hit-or-miss and results can vary 
quite a bit. But maybe I am screwing things up by defining Runs as 0?

      Steve 
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Tomasz Janeczko 
        To: [email protected] 
        Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 2:29 PM
        Subject: Re: [amibroker] CMAE question


        Hello,

        This is entirely wrong combination of params. 
        MaxEval should be AT LEAST 2000. Runs should NEVER be set to anything 
greater than 10, with 5 being resonable max.

        Best regards,
        Tomasz Janeczko
        amibroker.com
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Steve Dugas 
          To: Yahoo - AmiBroker 
          Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 8:03 PM
          Subject: [amibroker] CMAE question


          Hi - I am playing around with the CMAE opt engine. MaxEval is set to 
0 by me (instead of just accepting default). For Runs, if I enter any number up 
to 31, it will warn me about taking lots of time, and at 31 runs it says I have 
about 1.5B opt steps. If I enter any any number > 31, it may or may not warn 
me, and when it doesn't warn me, behavior of the progress box appears 
different. Am I overflowing the max allowed opt steps? Is there some limit to 
this algorithm? Any other thoughts why things are different sometimes? Thanks 
very much!

          Steve
   

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