For those who don't know, you can use google.com to do searches of the word 
Tooltip found on  www.amibroker.com (or other sites) by typing the following to 
the google search box:

site:www.amibroker.com Tooltip

This would result in a URL of 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.amibroker.com+Tooltip&aq=f&oq=

Best,

Chris

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tomasz Janeczko 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: The best way to help newbies, oldies, ... and 
AmiBroker ...



  Steve, THANK YOU very much. I could not express that better.

  I admit that organization of docs is lacking, but search is working and with 
a bit of patience, the information usually can be found relatively quickly.

  Best regards,
  Tomasz Janeczko
  amibroker.com
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Steve Dugas 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:38 PM
    Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: The best way to help newbies, oldies, .... and 
AmiBroker ...


    Hi - I wonder sometimes if people might expect to install AB in the 
morning, port all their stuff over in the afternoon, and be up and running with 
whatever they want the next day...  Unlikely to happen, no matter how badly you 
want to get back to making money. If you were learning a foreign language ( 
French, Japanese, whatever ) you would probably give yourself a year or so to 
become proficient - why would you not expect to spend some serious time to 
become proficient in AFL?  And of course, the more time and effort you put in, 
the quicker you will come up to speed. When I type "tooltip" into the search 
box, I get about 10 hits. Just going as far as the 2nd one I see


          Tooltip Allows you to define your own text for data tooltip

          Example:

          Tooltip = "This is my tool tip text showing close price: " + Close;
         


    That looks like a pretty basic and straightforward example...  It doesn't 
take a huge leap of logic to think... Hmm, what would happen if I added " + 
Open + High + Low"?  Then, what if I deleted the text part? If you are reading 
the docs you should probably come across the "\n" newline operator pretty 
quickly and then you will know how to stack them. There is no substitue for at 
least blowing  through the entire user's guide, including all the individual 
functions - even a year later you will say to yourself "I seem to remember 
reading something about this in the docs, I will try to search for it again"  
When you see people like Graham, Herman, et al giving help over and over again, 
ask yourself  "How did they get so smart"? The answer is, they got the basics 
from the docs, and then there is a lot of experimentation, trial and error 
involved sometimes to get exactly what you want.. TJ cannot possibly provide 
examples showing *exactly* how to do each and every idea that might pop into 
anyone's head. I can actually see why he gets frustrated when he *does* put 
examples like this right in the docs and people still say they have no help. I 
*have* read all the docs, and even review them once in a while to try and stay 
on top of new features. Once you do that, it is fairly easy to see who has put 
in their due dilegence and who hasn't... 

    Steve
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: lou 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:58 AM
      Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: The best way to help newbies, oldies, .... 
and AmiBroker ...


      Fred -

      If you'll pardon a "beginner's" comments,  It really doesn't matter where 
Brian or Allan want to go only that they can go where ever they want.  To do 
that they (and I) need to be able to find and understand the existing tools.  
To use the "Tooltips" example, I would not have been able to find the 
information given by TJ and would still be wondering why the check box didn't 
work (and still am).  This has been a problem since the beginning of AB but the 
program itself changes so fast that by the time a manual is written, it is 
outdated.  Don't know what the answer is, hope you do.  Guess it is time for 
some creative thought.

      regards,
      lou howard
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        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Fred Tonetti 
        To: [email protected] 
        Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:28 AM
        Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: The best way to help newbies, oldies, ... 
and AmiBroker ...


        Brian / Allan,



        While I'm not particularly fond of answering questions with questions 
the reality is that in order for anyone to answer questions like the very 
general one you posted they'd need to know where it is you are trying to go .



        If you've read Howard's book and that isn't in the direction you want 
to go i.e. system design and testing then what direction do you want to go in ?



        Are you a visual type i.e. are you only interested in indicators and 
line drawing capabilities etc ? or ?



        Fred




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        From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
matrix10014
        Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:09 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: [amibroker] Re: The best way to help newbies, oldies, .... and 
AmiBroker ...



        Brian,
        Thank you for simply cutting to the chase.Until the AFL issue is 
        adequately addressed,a large percentage of us wil be caught in an 
        enedless data loop.

        Allan

        "What I am saying is that I think we are making it harder by not 
        admitting that it is a programmers program and just getting on with 
        teaching AFL.

        I came to realise it is all about programming - 
        specifically AFL.

        So, if I do want to get on with it where do I go"

        > 
        > 
        > brian_z
        > 
        > 
        > 
        > 
        > --- In [email protected], "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> wrote:
        > >
        > > Herman,
        > > 
        > > >I always figured that sticking with AFL would have provided a 
        more 
        > > >continuous path for users to develop their programming 
        expertise. 
        > > 
        > > This is a new point, not really discussed much before, I think.
        > > 
        > > I really don't know how to put it in words but you are so right.
        > > 
        > > Tomasz should be proud of me because if I am a programmer at all 
        I 
        > am 
        > > an array programmer...... but sometimes I am left reaching for 
        AFL?
        > > 
        > > Perhaps there are conventions that people with 2 or more 
        > programming 
        > > languages automatically understand?
        > > 
        > > Do I have to go and learn C++ as well.
        > > 
        > > Should I need too?
        > > 
        > > brian_z
        > >
        >




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