Wave,

I should have included the time frame I was ranking over.  My ranking is EOD, 
for trades lasting from a few weeks to a few months - basically swing trading.

The point I was trying to make was that Howard Bandy may be right, but there 
are still sectors of the market that outperform the broad averages like the S&P 
 -  at least over the short term.

Another point that Bandy makes is that very short term trading systems (day 
trading) seem more resistant to breaking - so all may not be lost.  Finally, 
another curious feature is that an end of the month trade covered in his book 
is well known but continues to work - witness the last few days of trading ! !

ReefBreak


--- In [email protected], "wavemechanic" <fim...@...> wrote:
>
> Happen to be doing well now.  How about KOL in 11/08?
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Ed Hoopes 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: June 02, 2009 12:58 PM
>   Subject: [amibroker] Re: Do all trading systems stop working? - Howard 
> Bandy's book
> 
> 
>   I guess that we all need to get better at market timing if we're going to 
> trade SPY.
> 
>   Out of the 1600 or so ETF-CEF funds there are a few that stand out - all 
> are sector funds that happen to be doing well.
> 
>   Check out:
>   KOL - Coal
>   PWND - Wind Energy
>   IDX  -  Indonesia
>   PSTL - Steel
> 
>   ReefBreak
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In [email protected], "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Yes, last year was the real benchmark for managers/investors/traders ... 
> I hope I learned my lessons ready for the next one. High volatility and 
> correlated screaming bear years are here to stay.... they are the inevitable 
> consequence of momentum trading, which is a self perpetuating system until 
> the music stops and someone is left holding the parcel.
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > --- In [email protected], "wavemechanic" <fimdot@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > I suspect that these funds are not run by black boxes although the 
> managers are working within a defined methodology.  In any case, over the 
> last couple of years the picture is a little different relative to the 
> S&P500.  In that case, all are in the same ballpark (a little higher/lower 
> over time) except for two underperformers - PSP and STH.  So, relative to 
> these funds make life simple buy SPY and close your eyes.
>   > > 
>   > > Bill
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > >   From: Ed Hoopes 
>   > >   To: [email protected] 
>   > >   Sent: June 02, 2009 11:02 AM
>   > >   Subject: [amibroker] Re: Do all trading systems stop working? - 
> Howard Bandy's book
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > >   There are publicly traded funds organized around various trading 
> systems.  Below are a few for comparison:
>   > > 
>   > >   NFO - Insider Info
>   > >   STH - Stealth
>   > >   XRO - Sector Rotation
>   > >   PIQ - Magni Quant
>   > >   PSP - Private Equity
>   > >   FVI - ValueLine 100 Stocks
>   > >   BWV - Covered Calls
>   > >   CSD - Spin Off Companies
>   > >   DEF - Defensive Stocks
>   > >   EZY - Low PE Ratio Stocks
>   > > 
>   > >   Now take each one of the above and do a relative performance to the 
> overall market - like VTI Vanguards Total Market ETF - and you can see how 
> well they work.
>   > > 
>   > >   NFO, PSP, EZY top the list with a modest out performance using my 
> ranking algorithm.  The majority equal the market or underperform.
>   > > 
>   > >   For me the most disappointing is FVI only as good as the broad market 
> - so much for $650.00/yr fundamental/technical analysis newsletter.  XRO - is 
> the worst.
>   > > 
>   > >   ReefBreak
>   > >
>   >
> 
> 
> 
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