Mike,

I understand what you are saying. I think published results are up to Jan 2008 
so, we have approx. 2 years for OOS test.

Regards
Richard

--- In [email protected], "Mike" <sfclimb...@...> wrote:
>
> Richard,
> 
> I'm not questioning the frequency of trades. What I'm saying is to not trust 
> the avg. profit for any backtest results that they published.
> 
> In other words, assume that the strategy results are optimized for the entire 
> life of the symbol right up until the date of publication, and that the 
> strategy parameters have never been run against out of sample data.
> 
> For example; If their results were published on Jan 1, 2008 I would backtest 
> *starting* at Jan 1, 2008 and evaluate the metrics from that.
> 
> Mike
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Richard" <richpach2@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > 
> > I think, the key to the high hit rate is the exits. Connors uses no stops 
> > and most systems exit at the first/early profit opportunity.
> > Nothing wrong with that, but the avg. profit is only 1.5% (with avg. bars 
> > in trade 4.8). If you change the exit to some sort of trailing exit the 
> > success rate drops to ~60%
> > 
> > Regards
> > Richard
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Mike" <sfclimbers@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Check the most recent publication date and assume that all data from ETF 
> > > inception to publication was used as in sample (IS). Only returns beyond 
> > > the publication date can safely be considered out of sample (OOS).
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "droskill" <droskill@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Pretty insane results with some select ETFs - tried it with EEM and SPY 
> > > > and results in the +90% success rate.  Makes me doubt the results!
> > > > 
> > > > I'd love to see this code actually get to a portfolio - so, start by 
> > > > determining taking initial equity and then dividing it among a set 
> > > > number of positions (say 4) to see how it would do with a portfolio.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "longt3rm" <longt3rm@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > droskill,
> > > > > 
> > > > > First -- thanks for many posts (here and others) I've read of yours 
> > > > > which have helped me greatly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Code below:
> > > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > > //Created by Mike 
> > > > > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/message/146956
> > > > > //Updated per Mike 
> > > > > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/message/146967
> > > > > //Update by Bill to change EMA to MA and change from fixed shares to 
> > > > > fixed dollar
> > > > > 
> > > > > SetTradeDelays(0, 0, 0, 0); 
> > > > > BuyPrice = Close; 
> > > > > SellPrice = Close; 
> > > > > 
> > > > > previousClose = Ref(Close, -1); 
> > > > > rsi2 = RSI(2); 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sell = Cross(rsi2, 70); 
> > > > > 
> > > > > //bull100 = Close > EMA(Close, 200) AND Sum(rsi2 < 25, 2) == 2; 
> > > > > bull100 = Close > MA(Close, 200) AND MA(Close, 200) > 0  AND Sum(rsi2 
> > > > > < 25, 2) == 2; 
> > > > > inFirstPos = Flip(bull100, Sell); 
> > > > > firstTrigger = ExRem(inFirstPos, Sell); 
> > > > > 
> > > > > bull200 = Close < ValueWhen(firstTrigger, Close) AND inFirstPos AND 
> > > > > Ref(inFirstPos, -1); 
> > > > > inSecondPos = Flip(bull200, Sell); 
> > > > > secondTrigger = ExRem(inSecondPos, Sell); 
> > > > > 
> > > > > bull300 = Close < ValueWhen(secondTrigger, Close) AND inSecondPos AND 
> > > > > Ref(inSecondPos, -1); 
> > > > > inThirdPos = Flip(bull300, Sell); 
> > > > > thirdTrigger = ExRem(inThirdPos, Sell); 
> > > > > 
> > > > > bull400 = Close < ValueWhen(thirdTrigger, Close) AND inThirdPos AND 
> > > > > Ref(inThirdPos, -1); 
> > > > > inFourthPos = Flip(bull400, Sell); 
> > > > > fourthTrigger = ExRem(inFourthPos, Sell); 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Buy = firstTrigger + (secondTrigger * sigScaleIn) + (thirdTrigger * 
> > > > > sigScaleIn) + (fourthTrigger * sigScaleIn); 
> > > > > //SetPositionSize(IIf(firstTrigger, 100, IIf(secondTrigger, 200, 
> > > > > IIf(thirdTrigger, 300, 400))), spsShares); 
> > > > > SetPositionSize(IIf(firstTrigger, 1000, IIf(secondTrigger, 2000, 
> > > > > IIf(thirdTrigger, 3000, 4000))), spsValue); 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > priceColors = IIf(Close > previousClose, colorDarkGreen, IIf(Close < 
> > > > > previousClose, colorDarkRed, colorDarkGrey)); 
> > > > > buyColors = IIf(firstTrigger, colorGreen, IIf(secondTrigger, 
> > > > > colorLime, IIf(thirdTrigger, colorYellow, colorOrange))); 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Plot(Close, "Price", priceColors, styleBar); 
> > > > > PlotShapes((Buy > 0) * shapeUpArrow, buyColors, 0, L, -10); 
> > > > > PlotShapes(Sell * shapeDownArrow, colorRed);
> > > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "droskill" <droskill@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill - can you post the total code?  I'd love to have an example of 
> > > > > > this as I have been trying to do the same thing.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "longt3rm" <longt3rm@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Fantastic, it works!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you for your help!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Mike" <sfclimbers@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bill,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You would need to calculate the trigger first (i.e. ExRem of 
> > > > > > > > position state), then use ValueWhen.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > e.g. Something like the following:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > thirdTrigger = ExRem(inThirdPos, Sell);
> > > > > > > > bull400 = Close < ValueWhen(thirdTrigger, Close) AND inThirdPos 
> > > > > > > > AND Ref(inThirdPos, -1);
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The key being that Flip will give all 1's for the duration that 
> > > > > > > > we are in the position, whereas ExRem will remove redundant 1's 
> > > > > > > > leaving only those bars where the condition was first met. 
> > > > > > > > Thus, ValueWhen gives the Close of the most recent bar meeting 
> > > > > > > > that condition.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "longt3rm" <longt3rm@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mike,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Thank you! That helps significantly!!
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The one item I'm not able to figure out is how to track the 
> > > > > > > > > last entry price so we can check to see if the current close 
> > > > > > > > > is lower than our last entry. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I believe (I could be mistaken) the sample you kindly 
> > > > > > > > > provided is checking to see if today's close is less than 
> > > > > > > > > yesterday's close. I would like to compare today's close to 
> > > > > > > > > our last entry price.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Thanks again for helping so much. I am slow to grasp AFL.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Mike" <sfclimbers@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I posted some code to a related question here:
> > > > > > > > > > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/message/146956
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Short answers:
> > > > > > > > > > 1. Use Flip function to capture current position "state".
> > > > > > > > > > 2. Use state captured above AND'ed with next criteria.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > See if that helps.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "longt3rm" <longt3rm@> 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Goal Description: 
> > > > > > > > > > > 1) Initial $500 position opened when RSI(2) < 25
> > > > > > > > > > > 2) Add $1000 to position when entry price for #1 is less 
> > > > > > > > > > > than current close. (regardless of value for RSI(2))
> > > > > > > > > > > 3) Add $1500 to position when entry price for #2 is less 
> > > > > > > > > > > than current close. (regardless of value for RSI(2))
> > > > > > > > > > > 4) If all three positions are entered, we would have a 
> > > > > > > > > > > total position of $3,000
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Two questions / problems:
> > > > > > > > > > > 1) What is the most efficient way to determine if we have 
> > > > > > > > > > > a position and if we do, is it the first ($500) or second 
> > > > > > > > > > > ($500+$1000=$1500)?
> > > > > > > > > > > 2) If the initial buy is "Buy = RSI(2)", how do we tell 
> > > > > > > > > > > AmiBroker that RSI(2) is not longer needed, we just need 
> > > > > > > > > > > current close > last position entry price.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any suggestions.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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