:-)

On 8/26/2010 5:37 PM, booker_1324 wrote:

It should have been:

I understand what you mean by "I don't think that a plain old FIR (finite impulse response) can be proprietary", and I agree.

--- In [email protected] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>, Mubashar Virk <mvir...@...> wrote:
>
> Shoot! It was late at night and English is my fourth language only.
> The second line of my last reply does not read well. It should have been:
>
> I understand what you mean by "how plain old FIR (finite impulse
> response) can be proprietary", and I agree.
>
> On 8/26/2010 6:05 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I could "package" bread and butter, and sell it. But I can not claim
> > any intellectual rights to it. This is the point.
> >
> > This indicator is not different that say MA(16). It is well-known
> > formula (yes simple moving average
> > is also FIR filter!) plus arbitrarily selected parameter (16).
> > Nothing more.
> >
> > There are many freeware IIR and FIR "design" programs (even on line
> > like this:
> > http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~fisher/mkfilter/ <http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/%7Efisher/mkfilter/>
> > that allow you to enter cutoff frequency, passband ripple, etc
> > and so on and the result is just the set of coefficients, and even
> > C-source code ! so everybody can come up with zillions of
> > such "inventions" in a matter of 5 seconds.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz Janeczko
> > amibroker.com
> >
> > On 2010-08-26 00:41, Mubashar Virk wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I did not say you added them. I just said you may/might remove them.
> >>
> >> I understand what you mean "plain old FIR (finite impulse response)
> >> can be proprietary", and I agree.
> >>
> >> However, there are lots of guys out there busy packaging the open
> >> stuff into "neural-networks" and other number generators, and selling
> >> them as there own. Fin-Ware is one of the guys. They sell FATL,
> >> SATL, etc. and the numbers/indicators generator software. Hence, the
> >> assumption that they are (or may be) proprietary.
> >>
> >> http://www.fin-ware.com/indicators.html
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Mav
> >>
> >> PS: Is it DeMark who own a copyright on "OHLC". ;)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/26/2010 1:35 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> The original poster (soni67c) added them.
> >>>
> >>> With regards to 'proprietary' claim - could you explain?
> >>> I don't think that a plain old FIR (finite impulse response) can be
> >>> proprietary,
> >>> and the formula in question is nothing more than basic FIR filter.
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_impulse_response
> >>>
> >>> Z-transform (which is core idea behind
> >>> digital filters like FIR) was introduced in 1952 (Ragazzini & Zadeh).
> >>> Applications to sampled data systems are known from 1955 (Lago, G.V)
> >>> 1958 (Jury)
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Tomasz Janeczko
> >>> amibroker.com
> >>>
> >>> On 2010-08-25 21:08, Mubashar Virk wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Who posted them?
> >>>> Fin-ware!
> >>>> If not then TJ may have to take them out. These are proprietary
> >>>> (and not for public disclosure), I think.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/25/2010 11:48 PM, soni67c wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear members,
> >>>>> This is to notify that INDICATORS for FATL,SATL,RFTL,RSTL has been
> >>>>> posted in AB Library .
> >>>>> Thank you
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>



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