Great web page.

I can't say that I agree with all of the remarks about controlled carrier 
modulation.

I used to own a T-60 and it did great. A good old DX-60 sound great sometimes. 
Same way - very little idling carrier power, but tons of modulation power.

Those little rigs make 30 watts of AM sound like 100 watts. OK they may not 
have 
a BAND-BLANKING carrier like some of the 300-400
watt plate mod rigs out there, but when adjusted properly they 
can be very intelligible on the air and if you use a D-104 or such 
on them, often give very pleasant sounding audio, in my estimation.

Just some food for thought. I wouldn't mind having a T-60 or DX-60B
with a digital VFO and drive one of my Thuderbolts with it in AM linear mode.

Bet I'd be heard better than with a 30 watt plate mod rig all by itself (grin!)

On 30 Sep 2002 at 22:00, John E. Coleman wrote:

> Hi George:
>  You have obviously done you homework.  And I agree that in the
> majority of cases 1-2 dbs won't make a lot of difference.  The main
> reason for the article is that there is a ceiling, and how we might
> make the most of it.  The ceiling could be a linear amplifier with a
> 800 watt ceiling.  The same circumstances would apply if that is what
> a man has to work with.  The legal ceiling is different than it was,
> not just because of the problem of power reduction but in the fact
> that it is a hard ceiling not soft as it was in the old days.  One KW
> DC input limit could easily be a rectangular wave modulated micro wave
> with a PEP of 10KW and still be legal.
> 
>  All I'm saying is that with a ceiling, either legal or
> equipment, that there may be better ways to operate with less
> distortion and bandwidth while improving the level of reception at the
> same time.
> 
>  I must admit that it was the legal limit that prompted me to
> write the article since it's a little bit of a cramp in my style to be
> forced to turn the variac down to 220 watts input to the final for a
> carrier output of 165 watts.  Because my voice is so asymmetrical I
> must reduce the carrier to this low level in order to stay with in the
> 1500 watt PEP limit.  So the next time I get on 75 mtrs I'll have a
> switch that will flip the microphone phase and increase the voltage on
> the final at the same time.  Then I'll get reports on this for about a
> month and see what every one says.  I'll try to keep good records and
> post the results.
> 
>  It's all in the fun of experimentation as for as I'm concerned.
> Heck,  I've seen a 4-6 DB gain just by putting 20 dollars into some
> material to get the antenna up a little higher and that leads me to a
> subject that is very interesting to all I'm sure.  I'll always use
> open wire feeds if it is at all possible.
> 
> Good luck,
> John, WA5BXO         
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Pritchard
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 7:30 AM To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [AMRadio] New link to Info on AM and legal power limits.
> 
> Would anyone consider using the transmission line loss of 1dB as the
> "output power of the transmitter" into the antenna? That would mean
> 475 watts carrier for symmetrical sinewave instead of the "understood"
> 375 limit. Just more fuel for the fire. Just have a power sensor at
> the antenna input terminal. Claim it's the final output of the
> station. Consider this: 1KW DC input. Transmitter is 70% eff at TEN
> METERS. 700 Watts out into the 1dB transmission line. That gets power
> down to 550 Watts carrier into the antenna which is .87 dB over the
> "spec" if considering symmetrical modulation. If one were to drop the
> audio gain by .87 dB, the station is in compliance with the 1500 Watts
> at the ANTENNA input terminal. Its all "fly doodoo" in the ocean as
> far as I'm concerned. I the end... most people see the potential 3000
> Watts PEP (750 watts X4)old limit versus the 1500 Watt new limit as
> the 3 dB cut in power. Maybe, but it is only 1/2 S-unit using the
> worst case math loss. I include my PATH loss in the math loss to
> justify using my homebrew rig. Actually, the new rules give the SSB
> operators at least 300 watt more PEP. 2000 X 60% class B = 1200 watts
> old rules. My opinion is that there was no intention to reduce power,
> since it really didn't for the MAJORITY of the hams. Only a
> "convenient global" power measurement method was needed. The AMers
> (myself include) brought attention to the  AM power issue). Maybe it
> was (and is) un-necessary. Lets not forget that the "DC input rule"
> change was also for SSB guys as well. Since the SSB manufacturers were
> not burdened to include both Plate voltage and Plate current on their
> linears (or rigs), The FCC did not want to dig into the final's
> circuitry to make the frivolous and dangerous measurement. These are
> the words (paraphrased) by Steven mendohlson, director of the Hudson
> division during those power struggle days. I think you are all loosing
> to much sleep over this... Just forget about it, use your rigs in a
> polite manner, operate and be happy. Nobody cares about a few dB
> anyway. 10 dB! yes of course. 1 to 3dB? be real. Most meters are 1dB
> best accuracy anyway. George AB2KC
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John E. Coleman
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 11:32 PM To: AMRadio Subject:
> [AMRadio] New link to Info on AM and legal power limits.
> 
> 
> I've be working on a document that might be of interest to many folks.
> With the help of K4KVY, WA3WDR, W5TOB and a month or two of night work
> I've come up with something good I hope.  Anyway here it is.
> 
> http://www.qsl.net/wa5bxo/asyam/aam3.html
> 
> I hope it is of some use to someone and encourages experimentation.
> 
> John, WA5BXO
> 
> 
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