Most of the tuners in the solid state rigs are only good from about 35 ohms to 150 ohms reactive, which takes care of about 90% of the installations a ham can put up. Alan if you put up a straight dipole at the proper height, 1/2 wave length or so over proper ground, it will be approximately 70-72 ohms in free space. If you lower the ends to about 12 ft. of the ground the impedance will drop to near 50 ohms.

But what have you accomplished in most cases is to put the voltage nodes near the grounds and the worms love it because it keeps them warm. The higher the ends the better even if it results in a minor mismatch to your tuner or radio. More room for the RF to leave the wire.

Therefore the difference between 50-52 and 70-72 ohms will yield a 1.3: swr provided there is no other reactance in the system. If you put up a straight dipole and have the right conditions, I would use 70 ohm coax and any tuner will handle it so the loss of power in the tuner circuits will be minimal and the resultant heat dissipated should be in the tuner not the radio final.

Bob is right about knowing what your antenna looks like from the feed end of the feedline. SWR is a catch all that only tells you there is a mismatch. You will almost be chasing your tail to try to achieve a match using an SWR bridge. In other words, you will always wonder why the best match you might be able to achieve is 1.2 to 1.

Do some reading of the handbooks to learn a bit more about impedance and the necessity of proper installation, end effect, ground, etc. Look at coefficient of coupling for example and so forth.

Jim
W5JO
Geoff, Alan, Et al,

Both of you are RIGHT - BUT - almost EVERY radio/amplifier will tune from 50 ohms to about 75 ohms.

So futzing with the antenna MAY not be NEEDED!

An inexpensive way to check is to borrow an MFJ antenna analyzer, I.e., MFJ-204B currently going for $89.95.

OR simply put a GOOD VSWR bridge between the Final and the antenna. See what it tells you! My bird with peak reading tells me that my HT-32, Heath TX1, DX-60, and TS-930SAT, TS-820S -> and FINALLY the T-599 will ALL tune to the simple standard dipole.

From OLD BAs to newer <groan> Sand State, I have found that ALL will tune in this range OR more.

Bob - N0DGN

Geoff/W5OMR wrote:
Alan Beck wrote:
Basic question

Why is it that my radios are 50 ohms and the impedance at the feed point at
the antenna (pure dipole) is 70 ohms.

Am I mistooken

No, yer not mistaken.... but, if you want to lower the input impedance to your dipole, bring the legs down to around 40 degrees, and you'll drop the input impedance to the antenna down around 20 ohms.

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73


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