I agree, Joe. I was only speaking only in generalities. I do bite my tongue at times. However, most of the time, it is not worth it to fight over a parking space at the mall. The other guy may pull a gun - it has happened.

A lot of this spills over to the hambands where some hams get bent out of shape if an AM signal starts calling CQ some 5 Khz away.

Thanks

Dave, W3ST - W3CRA
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----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Hamfests (Tolerance of scooters)


A real vindictive person would call the police and file an accident
report. In most states,  if its got wheels and/or some type of
mechanical propulsion, its considered a motorized vehicle and subject
to vehicle and traffic laws... After watching my 90 year old mother
getting nocked down by some moron pushing her babycarrage, I guess I'm
a little intolerant too...  klc

----- Original Message -----
From: kk4tr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:10 pm
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Hamfests (Tolerance of scooters)
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
<[email protected]>

The only problem with what you are saying  as I see Dave is most
of the time
these guys don't show the consideration and tolerance to the rest
of us.
They usually DEMAND the right of way and I have yet to hear an
"I'm sorry "
when they back over someone or just plain run them over!!!   I
guess what I
am saying is a little bit more consideration from the other side
would a
good thing as well!!   Have a good weekend yourself  there buddy


Joe K4TR


----- Original Message ----- From: "david knepper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
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Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Hamfests (Tolerance of scooters)


> If you have ever been to WalMart, you will see lots of folks on
motorized
> "golf carts."   Any problem with that?  I just stay out of their
way!>
> Some of these folks that you refer to are obese with attendent
mobility
> issues.
>
> Why can't we show a little tolerance regardless of the other
guy's
> attitude or behavior!
>
> Perhaps, someday, some of us will be in the same situation and
have to
> resort to such conveyances whether at a hamfest or WalMart.
>
> Have a great weekend and let's get on the air.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave, W3ST - W3CRA
> Collins Radio Association
> www.collinsra.com
> Join the largest Collins group in the world
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> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Hamfests (Tolerance of scooters)
>
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> The folks I am talking about banning from hamfest use of
scooters are
>> various
>> dealers and a few others that we all know around here.  They
are
>> constantly
>> zipping around the fests with sometimes little regard for the
safety of
>> others.
>> I have been around long enough to be able to tell when someone
really
>> needs a
>> scooter, and by the way, these folks that need them are either
on a 3
>> wheeler
>> or in a motorized wheel chair. Of one of those folks gets out
of a chair
>> or
>> off a 3 wheeler and walks around, I have no problem at all with
that.  I
>> am
>> talking about the 2 wheel scooters and motor powered bicycles
that few in
>> need
>> folks would ever be able to ride, and even if they could, they
would not
>> be
>> riding them in the manner described above.
>>
>> I am afraid that one day, someone is going to get hurt by one
of these
>> OTHER
>> folks and a lawsuit will ensue. That would be the end of
hamfests around
>> here,
>> or at least wind up with the knee jerk reaction of banning ALL
wheeled>> vehicles regardless of the health condition of the user.
>>
>> Another thing is that most hamfests allow the free movement of
cars and
>> trucks during the hamfest. If you have ever been to Dayton, you
know that
>> on the
>> days that the grounds are open to hamfest goers, movement of
99% of all
>> vehicles
>> is totally banned during hamfest hours. If you have a flea
market spot,
>> you
>> had better be in your spot by the given time and be prepeared
to stay
>> there
>> until the gates close. Emergencies are handled on a case by
case basis,
>> but if
>> the same person states that he or she has an emergency too
often, they
>> are going
>> to get kicked out or refused permission to move at the least.
Scooters
>> and
>> such are banned except for actual medical need during show
hours and as
>> far as I
>> am concerned, should be banned at all times.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> John,  W4AWM
>>
>>
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