Yea I know I am 61 yrears old my self and have a bit of trouble getting
around but I will not get in one of those scooters. Personal choice I
guess. I know what you mean about the mall parking lot. I was a deputy for
26 years and I whent to a lot of calls in the mall and the adjoing parking
lots. Really interesting stuff. Seem no one cares for the other guys
rights anymore. It always seems to come out "me me me" and the heck with
the other guy. A little thought before hand and most of the service calls I
went on could have been prevented. Oh well one day I guess!!!!!!
Joe K4TR
----- Original Message -----
From: "david knepper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Hamfests (Tolerance of scooters)
I agree, Joe. I was only speaking only in generalities. I do bite my
tongue at times. However, most of the time, it is not worth it to fight
over a parking space at the mall. The other guy may pull a gun - it has
happened.
A lot of this spills over to the hambands where some hams get bent out of
shape if an AM signal starts calling CQ some 5 Khz away.
Thanks
Dave, W3ST - W3CRA
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----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Hamfests (Tolerance of scooters)
A real vindictive person would call the police and file an accident
report. In most states, if its got wheels and/or some type of
mechanical propulsion, its considered a motorized vehicle and subject
to vehicle and traffic laws... After watching my 90 year old mother
getting nocked down by some moron pushing her babycarrage, I guess I'm
a little intolerant too... klc
----- Original Message -----
From: kk4tr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:10 pm
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Hamfests (Tolerance of scooters)
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
<[email protected]>
The only problem with what you are saying as I see Dave is most
of the time
these guys don't show the consideration and tolerance to the rest
of us.
They usually DEMAND the right of way and I have yet to hear an
"I'm sorry "
when they back over someone or just plain run them over!!! I
guess what I
am saying is a little bit more consideration from the other side
would a
good thing as well!! Have a good weekend yourself there buddy
Joe K4TR
----- Original Message -----
From: "david knepper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
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Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Hamfests (Tolerance of scooters)
> If you have ever been to WalMart, you will see lots of folks on
motorized
> "golf carts." Any problem with that? I just stay out of their
way!>
> Some of these folks that you refer to are obese with attendent
mobility
> issues.
>
> Why can't we show a little tolerance regardless of the other
guy's
> attitude or behavior!
>
> Perhaps, someday, some of us will be in the same situation and
have to
> resort to such conveyances whether at a hamfest or WalMart.
>
> Have a great weekend and let's get on the air.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave, W3ST - W3CRA
> Collins Radio Association
> www.collinsra.com
> Join the largest Collins group in the world
> Nets on 7208 at 4:30 EDST every day and
> Monday at 3805 at 8 PM EDST
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Hamfests (Tolerance of scooters)
>
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> The folks I am talking about banning from hamfest use of
scooters are
>> various
>> dealers and a few others that we all know around here. They
are
>> constantly
>> zipping around the fests with sometimes little regard for the
safety of
>> others.
>> I have been around long enough to be able to tell when someone
really
>> needs a
>> scooter, and by the way, these folks that need them are either
on a 3
>> wheeler
>> or in a motorized wheel chair. Of one of those folks gets out
of a chair
>> or
>> off a 3 wheeler and walks around, I have no problem at all with
that. I
>> am
>> talking about the 2 wheel scooters and motor powered bicycles
that few in
>> need
>> folks would ever be able to ride, and even if they could, they
would not
>> be
>> riding them in the manner described above.
>>
>> I am afraid that one day, someone is going to get hurt by one
of these
>> OTHER
>> folks and a lawsuit will ensue. That would be the end of
hamfests around
>> here,
>> or at least wind up with the knee jerk reaction of banning ALL
wheeled>> vehicles regardless of the health condition of the user.
>>
>> Another thing is that most hamfests allow the free movement of
cars and
>> trucks during the hamfest. If you have ever been to Dayton, you
know that
>> on the
>> days that the grounds are open to hamfest goers, movement of
99% of all
>> vehicles
>> is totally banned during hamfest hours. If you have a flea
market spot,
>> you
>> had better be in your spot by the given time and be prepeared
to stay
>> there
>> until the gates close. Emergencies are handled on a case by
case basis,
>> but if
>> the same person states that he or she has an emergency too
often, they
>> are going
>> to get kicked out or refused permission to move at the least.
Scooters
>> and
>> such are banned except for actual medical need during show
hours and as
>> far as I
>> am concerned, should be banned at all times.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> John, W4AWM
>>
>>
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