> Many times I have been engaged in a QSO only to have someone CQ'ing on
> CW drift across my existing QSO.  Anyone who operates satellites has
> probably had this happen to them many times.  Sometimes myself or
> others in QSO may try to tell the CW operator "Hello - QSO in
> progress" but it is apparent they are not hearing us.
>
> My question is, does it make sense for people using CW on the
> satellites to have their receiver set to USB?  Do some operators do
> this? 
At first I was a little confused by the question... CW receive on almost any 
rig I have ever used IS USB receive (as opposed to LSB), just a different dial 
setting, perhaps with a slightly narrower bandwidth. Then I realized you are 
asking because of the passband inverting... Since CW is neither LSB or USB, 
just a carrier, then yes, the norm is to listen for CW with the down link set 
to CW or USB depending on preference.


But to address the issue of who is passing over who... is it not also possible 
from the prospective of the CW op that it is the SSB QSOs that are passing over 
them causing QRM? I've tried about four times now to write an explanation of 
how one used to operate, but the bottom line is, if a station is running with 
manual doppler correction and sending CW, my experience is he doesn't adjust 
the transmit VFO while sending... the receiving station adjusts the receive VFO 
while copying and then on the 'over' as he starts to send adjusts his transmit 
to match where he heard the other station last in the downlink. (It's also my 
experience that manual tuning SSB stations did the exact same thing.) So 
compared to doppler correction and possibly the one true rule, the manual 
tuning stations drifted... BUT, please understand that part of my confusion in 
remembering is that I mostly worked mode K, which was a different animal; you 
never adjusted uplink due to being
 on an HF band... you might drift into a terrestrial QSO. I did work a little 
mode A for a while and we sometimes had mode KA active.


But, it was never a problem that I could tell because the lower half of the 
passband was CW and the upper half was SSB and usually they were equally 
occupied. Nowadays SSB far outnumbers CW. (I would work more CW if more 
stations were on... I prefer it; guess that's a catch 22 thing now, huh.) I am 
merely suggesting that a CW op is more likely to be an 'old school op' and more 
likely to use 'manual correction'... in other words, more likely to 'tune the 
old way'.  I may be way off base here, but it's my honest 
estimation/recollection. However, if I am right, then your characterization of 
the CW drifting across the SSB QSO as opposed to the SSB stations drifting 
across a CW QSO (which happened to me many times last summer) is perspective 
biased. It boils down to what is considered a 'stable frequency' as another 
poster said... relative to ground reception or passband edges.

It is a very old discussion in ham radio... AM versus SSB was one of the 
earliest issues of group norms versus emerging technology. Meaning, the 
evolving technology began to force a change in accepted norms as the technology 
was adopted. And the points of view were equally biased... 'SSB does not have 
good sound quality'... 'AM takes up too much bandwidth'. But people still 
operate AM today. Room is still made for both and they can co-exist. However, I 
must admit it is a quandary when the practice in question involves shifting 
frequencies and how to do it. I'm merely saying, for you the CW station is the 
offender and for a "seasoned manual tuning op" the fancy computer doppler guys 
are the offenders. The question is whether to argue or how to co exist?


But to address what I think you were actually asking... As a CW op I can tell 
you that you will hear a CW signal sweep by with greater "ease" because the 
intelligence is communicated by simple on/off keying and can therefore be heard 
and copied over a greater time period. But from the CW ops point of view, 
sweeping SSB is charlie brown's teacher sounds changing pitch and the period in 
which the speech is intelligible is a fleeting amount of time... In other words 
what the ear catches is, "Wub-wub-wub-in QSO-squeak-squeak-squeak", where as 
you hear the beeping all the way through. Because like most any male we still 
draw on the genetically passed down ability to narrow our focus to only that 
prey which we seek to the ignorance of all else. =^D
73 and hope to see you back on the birds soon...

Kevin, N4UFO
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