I think that the transmissions from the airplane are time tagged, even without 
the data packets being transmitted. By comparing the ping time to the time on 
the satellite, one can tell how far away the ping is. You can draw a circle 
with that radius, taking into account fuel available on the airplane and last 
heading to sort of kind of bound where the airplane is. That is where the red 
circles in the NY Times article come from. 

A second satellite is needed to pinpoint a more exact location, but even that 
will have a relatively position error on the ground. I don’t think it is within 
range of another INMARSAT. Whether or not other assets exist that could receive 
the signal is a matter of speculation. - KK6MC 


On Mar 16, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Rick Walter <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tony, since the satellite cannot tell direction of the Ping, only distance, 
> the arcs have the same distance from the plane making up a half circle. You 
> would need to sats to hear the plane, see where the two arcs cross to 
> determine a location. 
> 
> This is the same way seismic stations locate earthquakes. 
> 
> Rick - WB3CSY
> 
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> 
>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:24 PM, "Anthony Japha" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Those so-called arcs that are said to be possible routes for the plane look 
>> much like the outer edge of one of the Inmarsat footprints.  Is there logic 
>> behind the arcs or is it oversimplified nonsense?  They are said to be the 
>> result of the signals Inmarsat received.  But then why wouldn’t it be 
>> possible for the plane to be anywhere in the footprint?
>> 
>> I’m sure many in our group have good ideas.  I’m not trying to start a 
>> discussion of the entire mystery, only this one narrow, but possibly 
>> misleading, aspect related to our hobby.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Tony, N2UN
>> LM 183
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