Hi all, sorry for answering this late (humm.. thread dates only from today, so I'm ok :P) but I've been busy lately... I just saw the thread, as you can see the MSNP12 which was labeled 'stable' still has bugs (latest known bug is now corrected it seems) and really, the purpose for 0.95.1 is to fix bugs and get our 0.95 release an even more stable one.. nothing else.. this means that no, we're not allowed to enter new features (my email labeled "next release plan" explains what is accepted and what is not). we'll have to leave MSNP12 and PSM support for the 0.96 which I'd like planned for the summer, the 0.95.1 is to get out in a few weeks only, maybe a month, max.. so it's mainly a "let's fix bugs now!!" I think most of the things people complained about were already fixed (special chars bugs is the most important one) and I know Jerome did a great work in fixing as much bugs he found on the bug report system as possible... Harry asked that we shouldn't make sure msnp12 is stable and introduce bugs in msnp9... I'd say don't worry, for now we're still mostly using msnp9 (I didn't try msnp12 yet) and we're in a "safe fix" mode (if you do a non-safe fix, please advice us by email) so msnp9 is gonna stay stable.. ALSO, once we get msnp12 out of the door (for 0.96), we'll completly drop msnp9, maybe remove its code, so we don't care about it being stable for long... About what Yoda asks, answer is simple : at least 3 RC version were planned in order to get a stable 0.95 release, but then we decided that aMSN needs to get out of the doors, we don't care about bugs anymore, we don't have the ressources anymore to fix those bugs.. we still have a 0.95 TODO list that wasn't finished, but the release had to get out... also, to make sure an RC release is tested enough, we would have needed to notify all users of the release, and not all people understand what an -RC is (windows users especially).. anyways, longty discussion about it and explanation on the subject of -RC version is available through the wonderfull 'search' feature of SF (search mail archives) gmane could also help you..

Now, this is MY suggestion...
what do we get by using MSNP12 ? what new feature ? PSM ? anything else ? I'd say, let's have an option in advanced window that says : "Enable support for Personal Messages (EXPERIMENTAL feature) -- needs profile + restart" so if people complain about PSM, we say enable it, and they get their feature, that's it.. they can also test (I'd like to get a "protocol version" in the bug report system if we're ever doing this...), also, it makes the philosophy of a "bugfix release" respected.. and we're sure 0.95.1 is more stable than 0.95 (not the opposite)... + users are happy...
what do you think ?
second option is to have a "use new experimental protocol" checkbox in the "Login as" window (the same way we did when we introduced msnp9)

KKRT


On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:57:41 -0500, Yoda BZH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

why don't you release -rc version of amsn ?
(it's just an idea)

On 1/12/06, Vivia Nikolaidou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Eventually you could enable P12 in cvs and still release 0.95 without it
> even if it is declared stable enough ...

Current CVS is actually using P12... it's a diff of 3 or 4 lines from P11
:D So, yes, you are also using P12 since a few days!


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