Op vrijdag 14 april 2006 19:14, schreef Karel Demeyer:
> Op vr, 14-04-2006 te 19:51 +0300, schreef Vivia Nikolaidou:
> > Someone on the forum requested that we implement a binding for Ctrl+M
> > that will hide/show the menu bar (as in KDE default). I can do that, it's
> > 5 lines of code, but shall we really do it or not? dunno, I hesitate a
> > bit before adding new features :)
>
> Ok if you hesitate about features that add stuff to the UI.  But a
> keybinding doesn't, so add it!  You should always consider if it's
> worthy or not to add UI stuff.  I like a clean UI.  That's why I had an
> "instant apply" methapor like UI for the new DP chooser.  So, when you
> select an emoticon from teh cache or the filesustem, it changes the
> preview, but then we don't have an "OK" button and a "Cancel" button but
> the user should 'think' it's already applied.  As in real life, when you
> push a button, you don't have to push another "apply" button for some
> action to be taken.  Like when you drive a car, you don't push your
> brake and then push "apply".  The Gnome user interface guidelines
> prescribe a lot of instant-apply ui-stuff.  most stuff in gnome also IS
> instantly applied (you see the changes immediately).  This makes you
> don't need an extra button.  It's not like a user will select a DP and
> then say "oh no ... I selected the wrong one .. let me click
> canceeeeeel".  If you select the wrong one, then just select the
> other .. no problem.  We're not talking about "rm -rf ~" or whatever.
I do not like that instant-apply. For appearance options, it doesn't matter 
that much, because you can easily see what happens, but for other options 
(e.g. connection settings) you cannot see what happens, and I will feel 
unsure if the setting is really applied if I did not press 'OK' or 'Apply'. A 
'Close' button is similar to 'Cancel': it just closes the window, with no 
side-effects.

> Though, I first thought to have the change off the dp applied to through
> the protocol on destruction of the window, but in fact, by having it
> applied when clicking a "close" button, we still can have some secret
> 'cancel', when the window is closed from the windowmanager.  I'm not
> sure if this is a good thing to do as some guidelines say a close button
> should do the same as the windowmanager's one ...
Indeed, there should never be a difference in behavior between a 'Close' or 
'Cancel' button on a window and the wm's 'close' button. Both just close the 
window and nothing more than that (except for asking to save changes when 
closing an app with unsaved data).

>
> Karel.
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