Op za, 06-05-2006 te 16:32 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui: > On Sat, 06 May 2006 03:39:35 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > As I stated in my "fait divers" in my reply on youness reply on the > > original mail, you can't just put stuff "only in the context menus" as > > these menus are only used by more advanced users. This sounds kind of > > silly to most of you I guess, but it's true. Think about all our > > mac-using friends who ddidn't have multi-buttons on apple-made mouses > > before the "Mighty Mouse". There is no problem with not having a > > right-mouse-button as on PCs most users don't know what it stands for. > > > > > > As it's crack, imo, to have yet ANOTHER menu, now there's already 5, I > > placed "preferences", "plugins" and that one frequently used setting > > inAccount as they all apply to that account. An not to "only one > > contact/group". > > That, I don't agree.. I realized something, MOST users have their msn > messenger, amsn, chat windows MAXIMIZED.. rare are those (like me) who > make it small to fit in some specific place on their desktop.. I know even > people who say "sorry, I can't use it unless it's maximized... I got > lost", so I think 5, 6 or even 7 menus are nothing for those people.. and > now, we have 4 menus in amsn and it looks small to me, so adding one extra > one wouldn't be too much imo.. btw, msn 7.5 has 5 menus..
I know about a lot of ppl having their meus maximised. BUt this doesn't mean we should add menus just because we have the space, right ? I know you didn't meant it this way though, so, I don't want to get you angry ;). Creating a menu for only 2 entries is "Crack". And adding more options to make it "right" to have yet another menu is thus crack too. btw: my design counts 5 menus too ;) > > > > > Youness said "change skin" is often used so it should be in the menus. > > Do you really think it is frequently used by novice users ? As long as > > it "Just Works (tm)" there's no need for them to find out how tro > > customise. If you want 'm to be able to customise their MSN client, do > > it the microsoft way, with sharable backgrounds. They seem stupid to > > us, but this is a more discoverable way of customising for "normal" > > users. Still this only changes some aspect. Changing all butons and > > stuff is more drastic and it involves your brain having to re-recognise > > all the icons and remember what action they're associated with. I don't > > think this is neededin the menus; especially having it there to be able > > to have yet another menu sounds 'weird'. > > > > "(19:10:10) uws: skin/appearance -> prefs" was also one of the first > > remarks on my draft proposal as I did have it in there first. > > > > > > > > humm.. maybe you're right, but I said to add change skin only if the > 'options' or 'tools' menu is added, I wouldn't want it in the 'account' > menu.. > > > > > > > > > > > Op vr, 05-05-2006 te 16:49 -0700, schreef Karol Krizka: > >> On Friday 05 May 2006 12:20, Harry Vennik wrote: > >> > > This is hte proposal: > >> > > > >> > > ===Account=== > >> > > Log in as ... > >> > > Log in > >> > > Log out > >> > > --- > >> > > Change Nickname ... > >> > > My Status > > >> > > --- > >> > > Go to Inbox > >> > > My profile > >> > > --- > >> > > view received files > >> > > show events history > >> > > --- > >> > > Enable sounds > >> > > Plugins > >> > > Prefs > >> > > --- > >> > > Close > >> > > >> > - Okay, as said already, I'd add a last item named either 'Quit' or > >> 'Exit'. > >> > - Also I've got my doubts about the 'show events history' item. > >> Further > >> > down in this e-mail I'll tell why. > >> > - 'Enable sounds', 'Plugins' and 'Preferences' should not be here... > >> I'll > >> > pick them up later. > > without creating yet another menu, this is the best plac to put m > >> > > >> I agree with this too. The preferences is something I wouldn't normally > >> associate with an "account". Also it dosn't fit into any other menu and > >> creating a seperate menu for "settings" would be waste of space. Maybe > >> change > >> the menu name to "aMSN"? But that might not fit very well with other > >> items in > >> this menu... > > The main menu represents the "object" you operate on in the window. 1 > > mainwin is about one account so that's wht it's called this way. > >> > >> > > ===Actions=== > >> > > send a message > >> > > send sms > >> > > send email > >> > > --- > >> > > send file or foto > >> > > send webcam > >> > > ask to see webcam > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > (Wanted to merge this with "Contacts" but it would make the menu > >> > > too crowded and also plugins should still be able to add stuff here) > >> > > >> > I'd leave out this menu. the webcam things belong in the chatwindow > >> only, > >> > the rest can be in the context menu. Having them in a normal menu > >> makes no > >> > sense because you need to select a contact for any of those. > >> > > >> I totally agree. Eighter you click on the item here and look through a > >> list > >> for the user you want to do the action to or you look at your contact > >> list > >> and rightclick and select the action. > > > > as I already said, these SHOULD be in the menus as otherwise it isn't > > discoverable by a lot of ppl. > >> > >> > > ===Contacts=== > >> > > add a contact ... > >> > > remove a contact ... - 1 > >> > > Contact properties - 1 > >> > > --- > >> > > New group > >> > > Rename group - 4 > >> > > Remove group - 4 > >> > > --- > >> > > view chat history - 1, 2 > >> > > view webcam sessions - 1, 2 > >> > > --- > >> > > save contactlist - 3 > >> > > load saved contactlist - 3 > >> > > >> > Okay, this could be cleaner. > >> > I marked the menu items with the numbers of the remarks. > >> > > >> > 1. Here are also many items that apply to one specific contact, so it > >> makes > >> > no sense to keep them here. Just have them in the context menu. > >> I agree with this too. > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Amsn-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? 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