i think we should not commit pending fixes, since for that you still
have to do a fresh checkout first anyway. So why not do a fresh svn
checkout and be done with it..

On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 14:14 +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote:
> I totally agree with you...
> As soon as CVS is back (maybe let us commit pending fixes) and hop ! 
> Migration 
> to SVN...
> Phil
> 
> Le Friday 12 May 2006 08:31, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
> > It seems we'll need to be changing everything to move to the new CVS
> > infrastructure...
> > for that specific reason, I propose we move to SVN right NOW...
> > GMTA : Sander had the same idea, so I guess he agrees.
> > what do you guys think ? i think we should just do it... cvs will be back
> > tomorrow, so answer should get in max tomorrow.. once cvs is back up and
> > if no real good reason for not doing it is provided, then I'll start the
> > migration process... 24 hours later (max), our svn should be up and
> > running, and from their, we'll do our commits...
> >
> > KKRT
> >
> > On Thu, 11 May 2006 22:19:12 -0400, Youness Alaoui
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > there you go!
> > > seems interesting.. we'll need to update our procedures and docs...
> > >
> > >
> > > ------- Forwarded message -------
> > > From: "SourceForge.net Team" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: SUBJECT: SourceForge.net: CVS service offering changes
> > > Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 20:36:30 -0400
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > You are receiving this mail because you are a project admin for
> > > a SourceForge.net-hosted project. One of our primary services,
> > > CVS, suffered a series of interrelated, critical hardware failures
> > > in recent weeks. We understand how frustrating this CVS outage
> > > must be to you and your users; however, our top priority remains
> > > preservation of the integrity of your data.
> > >
> > > The series of CVS hardware failures prompted us to expedite the
> > > deployment of planed improvements to our CVS infrastructure,
> > > drawing upon much of the knowledge that we gained from our
> > > Subversion deployment. Our improved CVS service architecture,
> > > which we plan to deploy tomorrow afternoon (2006-05-12), will
> > > offer greater performance and stability and will eliminate several
> > > single points of failure.
> > >
> > > The Site Status page (https://www.sf.net/docs/A04) will be
> > > updated as soon as the new infrastructure is rolled out. In the
> > > interim, please read the important information provided below
> > > to learn about how these changes will affect your project.
> > >
> > >
> > > Summary of changes, effective 2006-05-12:
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. Hostname for CVS service
> > >
> > > Old: cvs.sourceforge.net
> > >
> > > New: PROJECT_UNIX_NAME.cvs.sourceforge.net
> > >
> > > This change will require new working copies to be checked out of all
> > > repositories (so control files in the working copy will point to the
> > > right place). We will be updating the instructions we supply, but
> > > instructions that your team has written within documentation, etc. will
> > > need to be updated.
> > >
> > > cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/gaim co gaim
> > >
> > > would be changed to
> > >
> > > cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/gaim co gaim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2. ViewCVS
> > >
> > > We are moving from ViewCVS to its successor, ViewVC. ViewVC is
> > > currently in use for our Subversion service.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 3. Sync delay
> > >
> > > Old: CVS pserver, tarballs and ViewCVS provided against a separate
> > > server which is a minimum of three hours behind developer CVS.
> > >
> > > New: ViewVC will be provided against developer CVS (it will be current).
> > > CVS pserver will be provided against a secondary server (not developer
> > > server) with a maximum expected delay of two hours.
> > >
> > > Follow-up work is planned (this infrastructure takes us 80% of the way)
> > > to essentially eliminate the sync delay.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 4. Read-only rsync service
> > >
> > > As a new service offering, we are now providing read-only rsync access
> > > against developer CVS. This allows projects to efficiently make
> > > on-demand backups of their entire CVS repository.
> > >
> > > All projects should be making regular backups of their CVS repository
> > > contents using this service.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 5. Nightly tarball service
> > >
> > > Nightly tarball service is being dropped in lieu of read-only rsync
> > > service. Projects which currently depend on nightly tarballs for
> > > repository backups will need to begin using rsync to make a backup copy
> > > of their repository contents.
> > >
> > > We see this as a major functional improvement. For a number of reasons,
> > > tarballs have fallen out of sync with the data in the repository at
> > > times in the past few years. Tarballs required a substantial amount of
> > > additional disk, and I/O to generate. The move to read-only rsync
> > > allows backups to be produced on-demand, with an update frequency chosen
> > > by the project.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 6. Points of failure
> > >
> > > In the past, developer CVS service for all projects was provided from a
> > > single host. CVS pserver service was provided from individual backend
> > > heads based on a split of the data.
> > >
> > > Under our new design, developer CVS and most of our CVS-related services
> > > are provided from one of ten CVS hosts (count subject to increase with
> > > growth). Each host is independent, and makes a backup copy of the
> > > repository data of another host (which is used to provide the pserver
> > > CVS service).
> > >
> > > Failure of a single host will impact only the availability of data on
> > > that host. Since the data is split among a larger number of hosts, the
> > > size of data impacted by an individual host outage is substantially
> > > smaller, and the time required for us to restore service will be
> > > substantially shorter.
> > >
> > > This rapid architecture change has been made possible specifically using
> > > the research we performed for our recent launch of Subversion service.
> > > We've applied our best practices, produced a substantial amount of
> > > internal documentation, and kept an eye toward maintainability.
> > > This effort has allowed us to deploy this new architecture quickly
> > > once hardware was received, and will permit us to quickly scale
> > > this service horizontally as growth and demand requires.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Many other minor improvements have also been made to improve the service
> > > offering and make it less trouble-prone. The most important of which are
> > > listed above. For a full description of the new service offering, and
> > > for information on how to use the services described above, please refer
> > > to the site documentation for the CVS service after the service has been
> > > launched: https://www.sf.net/docs/E04
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > The SourceForge.net Team
> > >
> > > .
> 
> 
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