Resending, seems not to have gone through because mail was too large. Some
of you might also not have read Youness' ANGRY mail (scroll down). Youness
(and everyone), if you reply to commit messages, make sure you erase the
diff :P
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
>
> GIVE US A BREAK, DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> I just told you lat Saturday that I was thinking about quitting the
> project and you said "no :(". Of course, the reasons are now invalid, but
> with this mail, are you just giving another good reason to do so?????????
>
> I kind of explained to you the problems on PM and I don't feel like
> telling them to the whole ML. Let me just say this:
>
> Yes, I know you feel that almost everyone is inactive. I know you do want
> feedback. But do you really think that this is the way to go? If all
> people need is just a little pat in the back, a little (personal)
> motivation, do you think that yelling, accusing and threatening is really
> the way to go? Or is it just a way to make them even more inactive?
>
> For goodness' sake, Youness, you have most of us (if not all) on your CL.
> If someone never appears online, you cannot expect them to work for aMSN.
> If someone does appear, you can start by saying "hi, how are you?" (Maybe
> the answer will be "TOO MUCH WORK, ttyl" or "my cat just died :(((" so
> there you go again). If you see that things seem OK, you can start by
> assigning a little something to them, and asking if they can make it. This
> does work. Believe me. I've done it. Just don't push them that much...
>
> If I learnt something from my recent troubles, it's this: No matter how
> much you want something, no matter how much right you are to ask for it,
> if you push people to achieve it, you're most likely to achieve the
> opposite result - part B: pushed people shouldn't accept this situation :P
>
> Now, I suppose you know me well enough to be sure that this is nothing
> personal. I told you all I had to tell you and it's over. I just suppose
> that many people would hesitate to say things like that, thinking they
> might cause a personal flamewar or something...
>
> Take care,
>
> Viv
>
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:
>
> > Thanks,
> > now I must say, I love yelling and this is the perfect time to yell
> > again!!!!
> > After adding the voice clips support, I thought many of you would think
> > 'wow, cool, at least an interesting feature, ok,
> > I'll be able to spare a few minutes in my life in order to help a little
> > stabilize this new feature'.. it didn't work
> > that much for OIMs (thanks phil and billiob btw) but now, noone is
> > interested in helping for voice clips ? noone thought
> > about "oh, let's make a sound configuration wizard so people can choose
> > their device..." huh ? if you can't (like phil
> > for example), you could have at least answered by saying "sorry, I'd like
> > to help but I can't until next week" or
> > whatever...
> > this project is near death... I wonder if I should kick everyone from the
> > team and tell SF to close the project :@
> >
> > KKRT
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