maybe I'm a bit late in this thread, but I hadn't a definite opinion,
now that I begun translating the new keys related to it, I konw:
- I like the submenu idea
- I don't think the menu entries reflect their behaviour.
- I would suggest:

Contact sorting and grouping ->
    Group by status (with "radio buttons", instaed of "check boxes")
    Gruop by group (I know, this isn't beautiful)
    Group in Hybrid Mode
    ----
    Sort Ascending  (with "radio buttons", instaed of "check boxes")
    Sort Discending
    ----
    Sort each group by status

Or

Contact sorting and grouping ->
    Group by status (with "radio buttons", instaed of "check boxes")
    Gruop by group (I know, this isn't beautiful)
    ----
    Group offline contacts together (active only if "Group by group")
    ----
    Sort Ascending  (with "radio buttons", instaed of "check boxes")
    Sort Discending
    ----
    Sort each group by status

Also, most keys are the same as the old ones, witch could result in
wrong translations for users with old versions, without the submenu, I
think the keys should be completely splitted

I hope to have expressed myself clearly


2007/1/16, Tommy Quist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The colors that come with the statuses have always made it look plenty
> sorted to me. And I wouldn't really have it any other way.
>
>
> On 1/14/07, Madd Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > One thing I would suggest as a change as well is in the actual
> > ordering of statuses.
> > In my opinion, the Idle and Away statuses should be grouped together.
> > They're almost the same in terms of what they mean, so I think they
> > should be together.
> >
> > On 1/13/07, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > I just noticed that we have a really bad sorting of contacts and there
> is NO option to allow the user to customize this and I'm
> > > really surprised about that! at this moment, all contacts are sorted
> alphabetically but grouped by status...
> > > This looks to many people as if the list was sorted randomly and yes, it
> does look like that. you see, in my list, I see this :
> > > J - online
> > > P - online
> > > B - away
> > > K - away
> > > T - away
> > > V - away
> > > L - out to lunch
> > >
> > > how does that look sorted to you ? it looks totally random to me. and I
> do think many users requested to have their list sorted
> > > without grouping the users by status.
> > > I found the offending code :
> > > in protocol.tcl, line 2695 :
> > > set list_users [lsort -increasing -command ::MSN::CompareState [lsort
> -increasing -command ::MSN::CompareNick [::MSN::getList FL]]]
> > >
> > > So this is how it works, we sort the list, increasing by nick, then sort
> it by status, increasing again.
> > > I think we should allow the user to specify if he wants his list sorted
> alphabetically ascending or descending (we already have
> > > an option in the 'View' menu for that, but it only applies to groups,
> not to contacts!!!!!) AND have an option on whether they
> > > should be sorted by status or not.
> > > The problem here is, how much the usability of the menus will get
> affected.
> > > Maybe Karel can help on this point since he's the HIG guy.. so what do
> you think ? how do you suggest that ?
> > > it's easy on the code, but it's not on the usability, which is why I'm
> writing this.
> > > I'll do the modifs and provide with some config keys for this, all that
> will remain is to allow a user to change that..
> > >
> > > KKRT
> > >
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