Hi! > group by group isn't beautiful indeed which is why we should keep it as 'sort > by'
sorry, I disagree the verbs 'to sort' and 'to group' have different meanings, and should be used appropriately when it's about 'putting things together' the word is 'group', not 'sort' > the group offline contacts together is good but I don't want to code that, > it's a little bit complicated this is just a description of what Hybrid Mode does > since we use one variable for sorting, and we would need to divide it into > two variables if we want this... my coding skills are to weak to reply on this > about the "with radio buttons instead of checkboxes", I'll tell you that it > already IS a radio button.. but > stupid Tk shows a checkbox for a radiobutton when it's in a menu.. if you use > pixmapmenu I think, it would show > up differently.. maybe with tk8.5 too.. should I take any action to activate pixmapmenu? If so I believe there is a GOOD reason not making it the default :P > the 'sort each group by status' still doesn't seem clear to me 'sort contacts by status inside each group' would be to long... maybe 'sort contacts by status' is enough > about translations, if we change the text, we will create a new lang key, so > it shoul dbe translated correctly. that's what I thought > [ ] Hide offline contacts I don't think thi is necessary, just group offline contacts together (Hibrid Mode ;) and collapse the offline group > [ ] Treat away states as equivalent in this case too, I don't think this subtle tweak is worth the effort... sorry Gabriel ;) > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 09:44:46AM +0200, tonighx wrote: > > maybe I'm a bit late in this thread, but I hadn't a definite opinion, > > now that I begun translating the new keys related to it, I konw: > > - I like the submenu idea > > - I don't think the menu entries reflect their behaviour. > > - I would suggest: > > > > Contact sorting and grouping -> > > Group by status (with "radio buttons", instaed of "check boxes") > > Gruop by group (I know, this isn't beautiful) > > Group in Hybrid Mode > > ---- > > Sort Ascending (with "radio buttons", instaed of "check boxes") > > Sort Discending > > ---- > > Sort each group by status > > > > Or > > > > Contact sorting and grouping -> > > Group by status (with "radio buttons", instaed of "check boxes") > > Gruop by group (I know, this isn't beautiful) > > ---- > > Group offline contacts together (active only if "Group by group") > > ---- > > Sort Ascending (with "radio buttons", instaed of "check boxes") > > Sort Discending > > ---- > > Sort each group by status > > > > Also, most keys are the same as the old ones, witch could result in > > wrong translations for users with old versions, without the submenu, I > > think the keys should be completely splitted > > > > I hope to have expressed myself clearly > > > > > > 2007/1/16, Tommy Quist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > The colors that come with the statuses have always made it look plenty > > > sorted to me. And I wouldn't really have it any other way. > > > > > > > > > On 1/14/07, Madd Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > One thing I would suggest as a change as well is in the actual > > > > ordering of statuses. > > > > In my opinion, the Idle and Away statuses should be grouped together. > > > > They're almost the same in terms of what they mean, so I think they > > > > should be together. > > > > > > > > On 1/13/07, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > I just noticed that we have a really bad sorting of contacts and there > > > is NO option to allow the user to customize this and I'm > > > > > really surprised about that! at this moment, all contacts are sorted > > > alphabetically but grouped by status... > > > > > This looks to many people as if the list was sorted randomly and yes, > > > > > it > > > does look like that. you see, in my list, I see this : > > > > > J - online > > > > > P - online > > > > > B - away > > > > > K - away > > > > > T - away > > > > > V - away > > > > > L - out to lunch > > > > > > > > > > how does that look sorted to you ? it looks totally random to me. and > > > > > I > > > do think many users requested to have their list sorted > > > > > without grouping the users by status. > > > > > I found the offending code : > > > > > in protocol.tcl, line 2695 : > > > > > set list_users [lsort -increasing -command ::MSN::CompareState [lsort > > > -increasing -command ::MSN::CompareNick [::MSN::getList FL]]] > > > > > > > > > > So this is how it works, we sort the list, increasing by nick, then > > > > > sort > > > it by status, increasing again. > > > > > I think we should allow the user to specify if he wants his list > > > > > sorted > > > alphabetically ascending or descending (we already have > > > > > an option in the 'View' menu for that, but it only applies to groups, > > > not to contacts!!!!!) AND have an option on whether they > > > > > should be sorted by status or not. > > > > > The problem here is, how much the usability of the menus will get > > > affected. > > > > > Maybe Karel can help on this point since he's the HIG guy.. so what do > > > you think ? how do you suggest that ? > > > > > it's easy on the code, but it's not on the usability, which is why I'm > > > writing this. > > > > > I'll do the modifs and provide with some config keys for this, all > > > > > that > > > will remain is to allow a user to change that.. > > > > > > > > > > KKRT > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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