lol, yeah, 'he'...
anyways, I'm like Phil, I don't care, all I know is that the smileys are great 
now and they weren't before..
about the squint eyed thing, I still don't see it, but I'm not very good 
graphically speaking, so... I could be 
wrong, I just don't see it... I don't mind, I'll leave the decision to you, in 
any case, as long as we don't 
redo the whole set, it's ok :p

KKRT

On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 03:55:33PM +0200, tonighx wrote:
> sorry karel :P
> 
> 
> 2007/5/18, Philippe Valembois - Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Maybe "he" is more appropriate ? :p
> > Anyway, I haven't any opinion about that : the only thing I wanted with
> > smileys is that before some smileys weren't good for what the had to
> > mean... Now smileys are perfect for me ;)
> > Phil
> >
> > tonighx a écrit :
> > > I agree with karel
> > >
> > > @kakaroto: if I uderstand karel's thought, she didn't report the :s
> > > ,that is more 'squint-eyes', is that :s SHOULD be 'squint-eyes'
> > >
> > > 2007/5/18, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >> The third indeed.  For the "looking toomuch to the inside issue": I 
> > >> talked with ubitux about it and if we want it to be changed he would do 
> > >> it without problems.  Though, he likes it the way it is now.  In other 
> > >> words: I have to convince you  to make you find the eyes a bit too much 
> > >> looking to the inside: if you all find it, he will change it.  But I 
> > >> lack the "convincing courage", so I don't care anymore :).
> > >>
> > >> Karel.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2007/5/18, "Gustavo A. Dí­az" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >>
> > >>>  haha yeah...For choice 1 (poor Ubitux!!! he did an excellent art 
> > >>> job!!, so noooooo!) and choice 2 (hey hey!! i said many times about 
> > >>> suggestion!!! and as you see I've adjusted the skin to fit many tastes 
> > >>> and now is almost ended!!.. well a coup of things left :P) are not 
> > >>> available :P
> > >>>
> > >>>  The 3rd is possible :P
> > >>>
> > >>>  Cheers.
> > >>>
> > >>>  [GuS]
> > >>>
> > >>>  Youness Alaoui escribió:
> > >>>
> > >>>    ok, thanks, although I think :s is 'squint eyed' and :) is not :p
> > >>> Anyways, what do you suggest ?
> > >>> 1 - redo the smiley set to fit the skin
> > >>> 2 - redo the skin to fit the smiley set
> > >>> 3 - redo the 'smiley button' in the buttonbar
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> (of course 1 and 2 are j/k :p)
> > >>>
> > >>> KKRT
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 10:15:32PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>      I meant with "squint eyed", looking a bit too much to the inside.  
> > >>> Affected
> > >>> (while they shouldn't) are:
> > >>> :)  -  :D  -  :#  -  :(
> > >>> If we plan to make the smiley-sets changeable without changing the skin 
> > >>> it
> > >>>
> > >>> might seem dull to want the same style in teh set as in the skin, 
> > >>> though for
> > >>> the default set and skin I'd like the same style to be used - so the 
> > >>> smiley
> > >>> to be reused in the button.  Now the set looks a bit alien in the 
> > >>> default
> > >>>
> > >>> skin IMO.  Don't get me wrong, I like te new smileys a lot; I want them 
> > >>> to
> > >>> come out very well.
> > >>>
> > >>> Karel.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2007/5/17, Youness Alaoui
> > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>        yes, you ARE late in saying this, ubitux worked a long time on 
> > >>> these and
> > >>> posted them progressively and you had
> > >>> time to give the comments... Then once finished, we had all the time to
> > >>> give him comments on all of them before
> > >>>
> > >>> he finalized them.
> > >>> If you mean "the whole style is wrong", then sorry, I don't think you 
> > >>> are
> > >>> going anywhere with this. everyone
> > >>> LOVES the smiley set, I'm totally in love with it, my friends who use 
> > >>> amsn
> > >>>
> > >>> think it's really great! so.. there's
> > >>> noway we change to something else now (and ubitux won't have time to 
> > >>> redo
> > >>> them).
> > >>> If you're saying that smiley X and smiley Y has this or that defect, 
> > >>> then
> > >>>
> > >>> I think it's ok, because we still got
> > >>> time to fix that.
> > >>> About this "squint-eyed" thing, I have no idea what it means, so I
> > >>> wikipedia-ed it :
> > >>>
> > >>> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squint
> > >>> so, it has 3 meanings :
> > >>> 1 - To look with the eyes partly closed, as in bright sunlight
> > >>> 2 - To look or glance sideways
> > >>> 3 - To look with, or have eyes that are turned in different directions; 
> > >>> to
> > >>> suffer from strabismus
> > >>> humm.. which one did you mean ? and which smileys are affected by this 
> > >>> ? I
> > >>> looked at :) and :D they look ok,
> > >>> they don't look like they are partly closed, they don't glance sideway,
> > >>> and they don't look in different
> > >>> directions (they do seem like they look a liiiitle bit to the inside, 
> > >>> but
> > >>> it's not as much as for the :s smiley,
> > >>> which you say is ok)... so I'm completely lost!
> > >>> Can you give us the list of which ones you don't like, for what reasons,
> > >>> and how it should be fixed, that would
> > >>> help ubitux a lot, I'm sure.
> > >>> Finally, about the buttons in the skin, you're right, they are different
> > >>>
> > >>>           >from the skin, but I don't think it
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>        causes any problem, anyways, we were going to separate the 
> > >>> smiley set from
> > >>> the skin, right ? so it doesn't make
> > >>> any difference. We *could* put a smiley from the set into the smileys 
> > >>> and
> > >>> winks buttons of the buttonbar, but I
> > >>>
> > >>> don't think it would make much of a difference.
> > >>>
> > >>> p.s.: I just found what I think is a bug. when we click on the smileys
> > >>> button, it shows the smileys menu, but
> > >>> with an offset from our mouse cursor (to make sure the mouse is inside 
> > >>> the
> > >>>
> > >>> smiley menu so when we move the mouse
> > >>> outside it disappears.
> > >>> But for some reason, it seems to always show it at the same place now,
> > >>> it's with an offset but not from the
> > >>> mouse cursor but it's from the center of the button it seems.. just try
> > >>>
> > >>> it, whether you click on the top or on
> > >>> the bottom of the smileys button, the menu appears at the same
> > >>> coordinates...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> KaKaRoTo
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 12:17:30PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>          Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> firstly: I lilke the style of the nw smiley set, don't get me wrong; but
> > >>>
> > >>>               I
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>          have ome comments.
> > >>> Most of the smileys are looking "squint-eyed" (I searched for this
> > >>> translation, I hope it's OK); this ain't looking allright.  It's ok for
> > >>>
> > >>>               the
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>          :s smiley and some others but not for normal smileys like :) or
> > >>>
> > >>>               :D.  Even
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>          the cat has this look in her eyes.
> > >>> Secondly;  the smiley set and the skin don't blend.  The button in the
> > >>> chatwindow for the smiley selector shows a smiley from another set...
> > >>>
> > >>> I know I'm late to say this but I don't have a lot of time and just
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>               wanted
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>          to say t now quickly.
> > >>>
> > >>> Have a good day,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Karel.
> > >>>
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