Yeah, I know I must have exposed what I meant very unclearly. I'm sorry.
I was talking about differentiating the uonline and online keys, which
both are "Online", so that the when a user "comes online" or "changes
status" from busy/away/ecc. to online the user is not going to get
confused while scrolling the event bar.

So, changing online key from "Online" to "Available" would be the
first solution (which I recommend) and the EVENT BAR should print:

"$user online" -----> Buddy Available ----> when he switches status to Available
"$user uonline" -------> Buddy Online -------> when he logs in,
meaning you can find him in the Online group
"$user offline" -----> Buddy Offline -------> when he logs out OR
switches to Invisibile (we can't know that for sure, so just one key).

In the second email I talked about another way to differentiate coming
online and switching to online, so while the event bar should always
print "$user online" (Buddy Available) when Buddy changes status to
Available, it should print "$user logsin" (Buddy has just signed in)
when Buddy logs in (and "$user logsout" when he logs out, obviously")

"$user online" ----> Buddy Available ----> when he switches status to Available
"$user logsin" ----> Buddy has just signed in -----> when he logs in,
meaning you can find him in the Online group
"$user logsout" ----> Buddy has just signed out -------> when he logs
out OR switches to Invisibile (we can't know that for sure, so just
one key).

I really hope I explained it in a clearer way. ^__^"
Bye!

Montblanc

2009/7/8 André Ventura <andr...@gmail.com>:
> Hello :) (first email, yay :p)
>
> I think I understood what Montblanc meant:
>
> There is uonline (user logs in or changes status from invisible to online)
> and online (user changes status from busy/idle/etc. to online), if I
> understood right.
> At the moment they are both translated as "$user Online" and should be
> translated to, respectively, "$user Online" and "$user Available".
>
> At the second email I think he meant that uonline could become logsin, to
> avoid confusions because uonline and online are very similar. :)
>
> afv
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Youness Alaoui
> <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote:
>>
>> humm.. I'm really not sure i understand the problem, you sent two mails
>> and both were very confusing and hard to understand... could you try to make
>> it any more clear ?
>> either way, i don't really see any reason why there would be confusion for
>> the user or that we would need to change keys... (for now)
>> KKRT
>> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Montblanc <toto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello again,
>>> First of all, sorry for spamming your mailbox!
>>> I just thought about a simpler alternative: the event bar could just
>>> display the same thuings the event window is displaying when a contact
>>> logs in and out. It should just use the 'logsin' and 'logsout' keys:
>>>
>>> username + logsin
>>> username + logsout
>>>
>>> I think it's much better and should avoid confusions between users
>>> logging in/out and changing status! I'll be waiting for your feedback.
>>> Best Regards!
>>>
>>> Montblanc
>>>
>>> 2009/7/2 Montblanc <toto...@gmail.com>:
>>> > Hello everybody,
>>> >
>>> > A little idea bumped up in my mind when I was fixing langit (I still
>>> > am, actually...). I think we might need to differentiate groups from
>>> > statuses.
>>> > Let me explain: when I take a look at the event bar I see something
>>> > like "Username Online" which can be quite confusing if I both set aMSN
>>> > to show me users status changes and switch notification windows off.
>>> > "online" and "uonline" are both translated as "Online", but we could
>>> > let uonline be Online (meaning the Online group) and call the online
>>> > key "Available". This way, aMSN should print a "username uonline" or
>>> > "username uoffline" when the user is connecting or disconnecting, and
>>> > "username online" when he/she switches to Available status.
>>> > I think there's no need to differentiate uoffline and offline too,
>>> > since we can't know whether he/she's switching to Invisible or
>>> > disconnecting.
>>> > I suppose WLM 2009 has already switched the Online status to
>>> > Available, so we just need to change the online key to look like
>>> > "online Available" and have the event bar to discriminate between
>>> > online and uonline appropriately.
>>> >
>>> > I know you're all kinda busy and you'll soon be attending the GC
>>> > Desktop Summit (yeah!), so please just tell me what do you think about
>>> > it, when you'll have some spare time!
>>> > Greetings,
>>> >
>>> > Montblanc
>>> >
>>>
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