lol, yes, it's always the "could have been shorter"... I'm doing lots of
efforts to be less verbose :)
KaKaRoTo
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Álvaro J. Iradier <airad...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I completely agree with you... couldn't have expressed it better.
> Maybe just shorter :p
>
> Greets.
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Youness Alaoui
> <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote:
> > Hi Cerina,
> >
> > I can assure you, I have absolutely no worries at all. It's simply that
> we
> > do not need any help, just as much as we don't feel like we need to help
> > another website without a substantial reason to do so... I don't really
> care
> > if BrotherSoft is number 1 or number 2 in the world, it's all the same to
> > me, we just have no benefit from this.. We're not a company, we don't do
> > this for profit or anything, so we don't have any incentive into making
> it
> > even more popular than it already is... we do it for fun, and having to
> do
> > some kind of cooperation with a third party, share revenue, where to put
> > that money, how to declare it to the taxes thingy, and worse, what to do
> > with that money, that doesn't really sound like fun...
> > I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but we already get over 35 000
> > unique visitors per day, our latest release had seen almost 3 million
> > downloads for windows, 1.5 million for mac, and over 1 million for linux
> > (not counting those who installed it through their own distribution's
> > package repository system, which is the majority of our linux users) and
> we
> > keep getting 40 to 50 000 downloads every day... so I don't really see
> what
> > benefit it would give us to cooperate with us (including the fact that
> more
> > downloads equals more of my free time being wasted to help users with
> their
> > problems)... From my point of view, having a link to your website would
> be
> > an incredibly huge advantage to you and you only, which is why I feel
> that
> > there is no need for any kind of cooperation.
> > And to answer your question, yes, we could add mirror download to you on
> our
> > website, but it would only confuse the users since they'd get two choices
> > instead of one click and it downloads... And there is no reason for us to
> > have mirrors since sourceforge is already extremely competent and has a
> huge
> > number of mirrors and they all seem to work fine (never had any problems
> > with their mirroring system), so there's no reason to "fix" something
> that
> > isn't broken...
> > I hope this helped you understand my decision and I hope you feel no
> > animosity from our part and that you weren't offended by anything I said.
> > But anyways, like I said, you are free to distribute aMSN (for free) on
> your
> > website, we have no reason to prevent you from doing so, and we hope you
> can
> > get increased revenue by hosting our application without needing us to do
> > any kind of extra cooperation (less paperwork is always better, right?
> :-) )
> >
> > Thanks anyways for your proposition!
> > KaKaRoTo
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Cerina <cer...@brothersoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> HI KaKaRo,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your reply. Yes, there are thousands of website, but we are
> the
> >> NO. 2 download portal in the world. our English site has 20,000,000
> unique
> >> visitors per month.
> >> I have a question:
> >> Since you have your own website, you can't add your own mirror to
> >> sourceforge's system, but you can add a mirror to the download page on
> your
> >> site, right?
> >> we do value the relationship, and hope we could make money both side. i
> >> believe this is a win-win cooperation. and i thought google revenue
> share is
> >> an other way of donation to your software. what are your worries?
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Cerina
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Youness Alaoui
> >> <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Sorry but we are not interested in any kind of joint effort. We already
> >>> have our google ads on our website and we don't plan on promoting any
> kind
> >>> of software download website, there are thousands of website and we
> have no
> >>> interest in something like this.
> >>> We don't specifically have a download list and list of mirrors, we host
> >>> our project on SourceForge.net which already has a huge amount of
> mirrors
> >>> that deliver very fast speeds and we don't need any more mirrors, as
> much as
> >>> we can't add our own custom mirrors to sourceforge's system.
> >>> However, you can obviously host aMSN on your website (it's free to
> >>> distribute).
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> KaKaRoTo
> >>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Álvaro J. Iradier
> >>> <airad...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know if we might be interested about this...
> >>>>
> >>>> Greets.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>> From: Cerina <cer...@brothersoft.com>
> >>>> Date: Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:24 AM
> >>>> Subject: aMSN_Business development
> >>>> To: airad...@users.sourceforge.net
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> HI,
> >>>>
> >>>> My name is Cerina, BD Director of brotherosft.com
> >>>> We would like to host your software onto our servers. We hope our
> >>>> download link could be list as download mirror
> >>>> on your website. We could share the revenue of google ads generated
> >>>> from the download page with you. Or we could promote your software
> >>>> regarding our cooperation. Here is some info about revenue share and
> >>>> promotion:
> >>>>
> >>>> Revenue share:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. We would split the share rate: the split rate is depending on the
> >>>> traffic.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2.the money you make depends on your user distribution. the ecpm:
> >>>> Europe is higher than the other areas.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3.Here we have some successful cases: Photoscape, Download Accelerator
> >>>> Plus
> >>>>
> >>>> Promotion:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) 3 days Editor Pick or 5 days Recommended Download on our
> Homepage.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) A fixed promotional position in the Maincategory page.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3) When it have key update, we will repromote it in the homepage.
> >>>>
> >>>> 4) English site now has 20,000,000 unique visitors per month, and
> >>>> generates 8,000,000 downloads per month.
> >>>>
> >>>> 5) We have 35,000 servers all over the world, users can enjoy the
> >>>> high speed of download no matter where they are.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Cerina F | Marketing Assistant | Brothersoft.com
> >>>> MSN : cerina_f...@hotmail.com
> >>>> Skype: cerina_fang
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> (:===========================================:)
> >>>> Alvaro J. Iradier Muro - airad...@gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> MSN : cerina_f...@hotmail.com
> >> Skype: cerina_fang
> >>
> >
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