On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Stephen Turner wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, David Brownlee wrote:
> > 
> >     In what way does redhat lose with package integration? The main
> >     ways I could see would be the frightening lossage that ensues when
> >     you have two packages which each depend on a different version
> >     of a common package (not likely to be a problem with analog), and
> >     mismatched shared libraries between the package and the base
> >     system (again, not something I'd expect with analog).
> 
> Well, I haven't used RedHat. But as I understand it
> 
> (1) RedHat relies on an unknown user to get the dependencies right. Debian
> only lets official developers do it.
> 
        So Cathedral rather than Bazaar? :) Seriously, I agree this is a
        better approach. Anyone can contribute, but only official
        developers can commit (Its also the method used in *BSD)

> (2) Because all packages are part of the distribution, they are all covered
> in the bug tracking database. And if a package has a serious enough bug and
> is not fixed, it can eventually get forceably taken over, or pulled. RedHat
> leaves it lying around until someone provides a replacement.
> 
> (3) Packages occasionally conflict in unexpected ways. Because everything is
> in the distribution in Debian, this can be reported and fixed.
> 
> (4) Debian has more available dependencies: Apart from Depends and
> Conflicts, it has Recommends, Suggests, Replaces, Provides and Pre-Depends.
> This seems to make for much smoother installation.
> 
        Its interesting to see one linux distribution and the BSD systems
        arrive at a similar place from different ends. NetBSD focuses on
        giving the user all they need to automatically compile, install
        and register a package from original source. As a Debian person
        you can appreciate the effort involved in regenerating binary
        packages for some large number of CPU architectures * OS releases
        :)

        
> Maybe one example is worth any number of arguments. Compare these two
> listings and tell me which system works:
> 
        Debain definitely looks better in that list, but I prefer
        to use 'cd /usr/pkgsrc/www/analog ; make install' to get
        analog-4.1 on any of my NetBSD boxes - alpha to vaxen :)

                David/absolute



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