Hi all, It seems comments are decreasing at this point. I'd like to slowly drive this thread to a conclusion.
3. Create a plan to block clients that dont implement the (amended) > User-Agent policy. I think we can decide on this later. Steps 1) and 2) can be done first - they should be done anyway before 3) - and then we can see how much benefit we raise from them. If we don't get a satisfactory reaction from bot/framework maintainers, we then can go for 3). John, would you be OK with that? If no-one else raises concerns about this, the Analytics team will: 1. Add a mention to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User-Agent_policy, to encourage including the word "bot" (case-insensitive) in the User-Agent string, so that bots can be easily identified. 2. Advertise the convention and reach out to bot/framework maintainers to increase the share of bots that implement the User-Agent policy. Thanks! On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 5:21 AM, Bryan Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote: > >>It will take time for frameworks to implement an amended User-Agent > policy. > >>For example, pywikipedia (pywikibot compat) is not actively > >>maintained. > > That doesn't imply we shouldn't have a policy that anyone can refer to, > > these bots will not follow it until they get some maintainers. > > > >>There was a task filled against Analytics for this, but Dan Andreescu > >>removed Analytics (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99373#1859170). > > > > Sorry that the tagging is confusing. I think Analytics tag was removed > cause > > this is a request for data and our team doesn't do data retrieval. We > > normally tag with "analytics" phabricator items that have actionables for > > our team. > > I am cc-ing Bryan who has already done some analysis on bots requests to > the > > API and can probably provide some data. > > It would be possible to make some relative comparisons of pywikibot > versions using the data that is currently collected in the > wmf.webrequest data set. "Someday" I'll get T108618 [0] finished which > will make answering some of the more granular questions in T99373 > easier. Kunal talked with Brad and I a few weeks ago when we were all > in SF for the DevSummit about other instrumentation that could be put > in place specifically for pywikibot so that something like > Special:ApiFeatureUsage [2] could be created for pywikibot version > tracking as well. This all seems like a fork of the topic at hand > however. > > [0]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108618 > [1]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99373 > [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiFeatureUsage > > Bryan > -- > Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation <[email protected]> > [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Sr Software Engineer Boise, ID USA > irc: bd808 v:415.839.6885 x6855 > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > -- *Marcel Ruiz Forns* Analytics Developer Wikimedia Foundation
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