>I'm very strongly against the suggestion of blocking anyone's access >to api.php or the wikis in general over not having "bot" in the >user-agent string however. Getting cleaner analytics is a nice goal >but the point of the projects is to collect and disseminate >information. Much agreed.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Bryan Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Marcel Ruiz Forns <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > It seems comments are decreasing at this point. I'd like to slowly drive > > this thread to a conclusion. > > > > > >> 3. Create a plan to block clients that dont implement the (amended) > >> User-Agent policy. > > > > > > I think we can decide on this later. Steps 1) and 2) can be done first - > > they should be done anyway before 3) - and then we can see how much > benefit > > we raise from them. If we don't get a satisfactory reaction from > > bot/framework maintainers, we then can go for 3). John, would you be OK > with > > that? > > > > > > If no-one else raises concerns about this, the Analytics team will: > > > > Add a mention to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User-Agent_policy, to > > encourage including the word "bot" (case-insensitive) in the User-Agent > > string, so that bots can be easily identified. > > > > Advertise the convention and reach out to bot/framework maintainers to > > increase the share of bots that implement the User-Agent policy. > > The proposed plan sounds good to me. > > I'm very strongly against the suggestion of blocking anyone's access > to api.php or the wikis in general over not having "bot" in the > user-agent string however. Getting cleaner analytics is a nice goal > but the point of the projects is to collect and disseminate > information. You might get blocked for doing something deliberately > harmful to the services or the community, but getting blocked for not > following an arbitrary convention that causes no real harm is extreme. > You will quickly find yourself in a strange conundrum as well. To > block you will need to establish intent of the User Agent and if you > can do that then you probably don't need the "bot" tagging convention > in the first place. > > Bryan > -- > Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation <[email protected]> > [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Sr Software Engineer Boise, ID USA > irc: bd808 v:415.839.6885 x6855 > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >
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