Hi Edo!

> The nl-wiki has 300.000-350.000 hits on the main page per day. The rest of
> the top10 drops quickly down to 5000 hits per day, a reasonable amount. But
> the 1.500.000 unique visitors per day then seems overstated, when I do a
> rough estimate, it looks like 1.500.000 is the total number of page views,
> the number of unique devices must be a lot smaller then.


It does look like this, but if you sum all view counts for the top 993 most
visited articles (
https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/pageviews/top/nl.wikipedia.org/all-access/2016/02/01),
it adds up to 1.203.816. Also, nl.wikipedia.org has more than 1 million
articles, I think the rest of articles not mentioned in the top would raise
that count far above the 1.500.000. We should also consider that the
majority of wikipedia visitors do 1-article-only lookups. So, I
think 1.635.478 of unique devices makes sense.

Cheers

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Edo de Roo <[email protected]> wrote:

> Gergo Tisza makes a valid point.
>
> The nl-wiki has 300.000-350.000 hits on the main page per day. The rest of
> the top10 drops quickly down to 5000 hits per day, a reasonable amount.
> But the 1.500.000 unique visitors per day then seems overstated, when I do
> a rough estimate, it looks like 1.500.000 is the total number of page
> views, the number of unique devices must be a lot smaller then.
>
> See
> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/nl.wikipedia.org/all-sites/daily/20160201/20160201
>
> Edo de Roo
> nl-wiki, wikidata
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:50 PM, <[email protected]>
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>> The analytics team is happy to announce that the Unique Devices data is
>> now
>> available to be queried programmatically via an API.
>>
>> This means that getting the daily number of unique devices [1] for English
>> Wikipedia for the month of February 2016, for all sites (desktop and
>> mobile) is as easy as launching this query:
>>
>>
>> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/en.wikipedia.org/all-sites/daily/20160201/20160229
>>
>> You can get started by taking a look at our docs:
>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Unique_Devices#Quick_Start
>>
>> If you are not familiar with the Unique Devices data the main thing you
>> need to know is that
>> is a good proxy metric to measure Unique Users, more info below.
>>
>> Since 2009, the Wikimedia Foundation used comScore to report data about
>> unique web visitors.  In January 2016, however, we decided to stop
>> reporting comScore numbers [2] because of certain limitations in the
>> methodology, these limitations translated into misreported mobile usage.
>> We
>> are now ready to replace comscore numbers with the Unique Devices Dataset
>> .
>> While unique devices does not equal unique visitors, it is a good proxy
>> for
>> that metric, meaning that a major increase in the number of unique devices
>> is likely to come from an increase in distinct users. We understand that
>> counting uniques raises fairly big privacy concerns and we use a very
>> private conscious way to count unique devices, it does not include any
>> cookie by which your browser history can be tracked [3].
>>
>>
>> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices
>> [2] [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComScore/Announcement
>> [3]
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>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices#How_do_we_count_unique_
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>> Very interesting, thank you!
>>
>> Do you have any estimate of how much this overcounts? I checked the
>> monthly
>> uniques for huwiki
>> <
>> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/hu.wikipedia.org/all-sites/monthly/20160301/20160331
>> >,
>> and it's about 5.8 million, which is a bit higher than the total number of
>> internet users in Hungary (estimated to 5.2 million). This Gemius analyis
>> <http://www.gemius.com/all-reader-news/is-wikipedia-still-popular.html>
>> from
>> a year ago claims a 30% reach for Wikipedia, which would be about 1.5
>> million. They use a software panel (a demographically representative group
>> of volunteers who installed tracking software) so they might be inaccurate
>> (and they only count traffic originating from Hungary I think) but
>> probably
>> not by a factor of four.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello!
>> >
>> > The analytics team is happy to announce that the Unique Devices data is
>> > now available to be queried programmatically via an API.
>> >
>> > This means that getting the daily number of unique devices [1] for
>> English
>> > Wikipedia for the month of February 2016, for all sites (desktop and
>> > mobile) is as easy as launching this query:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/en.wikipedia.org/all-sites/daily/20160201/20160229
>> >
>> > You can get started by taking a look at our docs:
>> >
>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Unique_Devices#Quick_Start
>> >
>> > If you are not familiar with the Unique Devices data the main thing you
>> > need to know is that
>> > is a good proxy metric to measure Unique Users, more info below.
>> >
>> > Since 2009, the Wikimedia Foundation used comScore to report data about
>> > unique web visitors.  In January 2016, however, we decided to stop
>> > reporting comScore numbers [2] because of certain limitations in the
>> > methodology, these limitations translated into misreported mobile
>> usage. We
>> > are now ready to replace comscore numbers with the Unique Devices
>> Dataset .
>> > While unique devices does not equal unique visitors, it is a good proxy
>> for
>> > that metric, meaning that a major increase in the number of unique
>> devices
>> > is likely to come from an increase in distinct users. We understand that
>> > counting uniques raises fairly big privacy concerns and we use a very
>> > private conscious way to count unique devices, it does not include any
>> > cookie by which your browser history can be tracked [3].
>> >
>> >
>> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices
>> > [2] [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComScore/Announcement
>> > [3]
>> >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices#How_do_we_count_unique_
>> > devices.3F
>> >
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>> From: Kevin Leduc <[email protected]>
>> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who
>>         has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics."
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>> Cc: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]>,
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>> Here's another useful link to a form that helps you construct the API
>> call:
>>
>> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/?doc#!/Unique_devices_data/get_metrics_unique_devices_project_access_site_granularity_start_end
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello!
>> >
>> > The analytics team is happy to announce that the Unique Devices data is
>> > now available to be queried programmatically via an API.
>> >
>> > This means that getting the daily number of unique devices [1] for
>> English
>> > Wikipedia for the month of February 2016, for all sites (desktop and
>> > mobile) is as easy as launching this query:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/en.wikipedia.org/all-sites/daily/20160201/20160229
>> >
>> > You can get started by taking a look at our docs:
>> >
>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Unique_Devices#Quick_Start
>> >
>> > If you are not familiar with the Unique Devices data the main thing you
>> > need to know is that
>> > is a good proxy metric to measure Unique Users, more info below.
>> >
>> > Since 2009, the Wikimedia Foundation used comScore to report data about
>> > unique web visitors.  In January 2016, however, we decided to stop
>> > reporting comScore numbers [2] because of certain limitations in the
>> > methodology, these limitations translated into misreported mobile
>> usage. We
>> > are now ready to replace comscore numbers with the Unique Devices
>> Dataset .
>> > While unique devices does not equal unique visitors, it is a good proxy
>> for
>> > that metric, meaning that a major increase in the number of unique
>> devices
>> > is likely to come from an increase in distinct users. We understand that
>> > counting uniques raises fairly big privacy concerns and we use a very
>> > private conscious way to count unique devices, it does not include any
>> > cookie by which your browser history can be tracked [3].
>> >
>> >
>> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices
>> > [2] [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComScore/Announcement
>> > [3]
>> >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices#How_do_we_count_unique_
>> > devices.3F
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