Edo, >The nl-wiki has 300.000-350.000 hits on the main page per day. The rest of the top10 drops quickly down to 5000 hits per day, a reasonable amount. >But the 1.500.000 unique visitors per day then seems overstated, when I do a rough estimate, it looks like 1.500.000 is the total number of page views, the number of unique >devices must be a lot smaller then. Not sure where do your numbers come from but the number of pageviews on a random day of April for nl.wikipedia (adding desktop and mobile across the world) is about 5 million, discounting bots. No need to estimate, as we count every one of them.
Here are some visuals: https://vital-signs-test.wmflabs.org/#projects=nlwiki/metrics=Pageviews Maybe we are looking at a different project? I was searching for "dutch wikipedia" On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Marcel Ruiz Forns <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Edo! > > >> The nl-wiki has 300.000-350.000 hits on the main page per day. The rest >> of the top10 drops quickly down to 5000 hits per day, a reasonable amount. >> But >> the 1.500.000 unique visitors per day then seems overstated, when I do a >> rough estimate, it looks like 1.500.000 is the total number of page views, >> the number of unique devices must be a lot smaller then. > > > It does look like this, but if you sum all view counts for the top 993 > most visited articles ( > https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/pageviews/top/nl.wikipedia.org/all-access/2016/02/01), > it adds up to 1.203.816. Also, nl.wikipedia.org has more than 1 million > articles, I think the rest of articles not mentioned in the top would raise > that count far above the 1.500.000. We should also consider that the > majority of wikipedia visitors do 1-article-only lookups. So, I > think 1.635.478 of unique devices makes sense. > > Cheers > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Edo de Roo <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Gergo Tisza makes a valid point. >> >> The nl-wiki has 300.000-350.000 hits on the main page per day. The rest >> of the top10 drops quickly down to 5000 hits per day, a reasonable amount. >> But the 1.500.000 unique visitors per day then seems overstated, when I >> do a rough estimate, it looks like 1.500.000 is the total number of page >> views, the number of unique devices must be a lot smaller then. >> >> See >> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/nl.wikipedia.org/all-sites/daily/20160201/20160201 >> >> Edo de Roo >> nl-wiki, wikidata >> >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:50 PM, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Send Analytics mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Unique Devices data available on API (Nuria Ruiz) >>> 2. Hive & Oozie downtime tomorrow (Andrew Otto) >>> 3. Re: Unique Devices data available on API (Gergo Tisza) >>> 4. Re: Unique Devices data available on API (Kevin Leduc) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:17:12 -0700 >>> From: Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> >>> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who >>> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." >>> <[email protected]>, Wikimedia developers >>> <[email protected]>, >>> [email protected] >>> Subject: [Analytics] Unique Devices data available on API >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAMpYYkGngUfQOu-f6sL1TVTDbDUX_= >>> [email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Hello! >>> >>> The analytics team is happy to announce that the Unique Devices data is >>> now >>> available to be queried programmatically via an API. >>> >>> This means that getting the daily number of unique devices [1] for >>> English >>> Wikipedia for the month of February 2016, for all sites (desktop and >>> mobile) is as easy as launching this query: >>> >>> >>> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/en.wikipedia.org/all-sites/daily/20160201/20160229 >>> >>> You can get started by taking a look at our docs: >>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Unique_Devices#Quick_Start >>> >>> If you are not familiar with the Unique Devices data the main thing you >>> need to know is that >>> is a good proxy metric to measure Unique Users, more info below. >>> >>> Since 2009, the Wikimedia Foundation used comScore to report data about >>> unique web visitors. In January 2016, however, we decided to stop >>> reporting comScore numbers [2] because of certain limitations in the >>> methodology, these limitations translated into misreported mobile usage. >>> We >>> are now ready to replace comscore numbers with the Unique Devices >>> Dataset . >>> While unique devices does not equal unique visitors, it is a good proxy >>> for >>> that metric, meaning that a major increase in the number of unique >>> devices >>> is likely to come from an increase in distinct users. We understand that >>> counting uniques raises fairly big privacy concerns and we use a very >>> private conscious way to count unique devices, it does not include any >>> cookie by which your browser history can be tracked [3]. >>> >>> >>> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices >>> [2] [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComScore/Announcement >>> [3] >>> >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices#How_do_we_count_unique_ >>> devices.3F >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/attachments/20160419/5cf1283f/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 16:05:50 -0400 >>> From: Andrew Otto <[email protected]> >>> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who >>> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [Analytics] Hive & Oozie downtime tomorrow >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAO8= >>> [email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> As part of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130840, we need to >>> schedule a >>> short downtime for Hive and Oozie. I would like to proceed with this >>> tomorrow if there are no objections. >>> >>> I’d like to schedule this downtime for an hour starting at 14:45 UTC >>> (10:45 >>> EST, 07:45 PST) Wednesday April 20th. The downtime will likely be less >>> than an hour, but I’m blocking out an hour just in case. >>> >>> Sorry for the short notice! If this is going to cause anyone trouble let >>> us know and we will reschedule with more notice. >>> >>> Thanks all! >>> -Andrew >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/attachments/20160419/8132606c/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 22:54:13 +0200 >>> From: Gergo Tisza <[email protected]> >>> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who >>> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." >>> <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]>, Research >>> into Wikimedia content and communities >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Unique Devices data available on API >>> Message-ID: >>> < >>> caevcxn2cmqgcgdx_vmgux0kxefron8wqoabx3ncdj8m2-2p...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Very interesting, thank you! >>> >>> Do you have any estimate of how much this overcounts? I checked the >>> monthly >>> uniques for huwiki >>> < >>> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/hu.wikipedia.org/all-sites/monthly/20160301/20160331 >>> >, >>> and it's about 5.8 million, which is a bit higher than the total number >>> of >>> internet users in Hungary (estimated to 5.2 million). This Gemius analyis >>> <http://www.gemius.com/all-reader-news/is-wikipedia-still-popular.html> >>> from >>> a year ago claims a 30% reach for Wikipedia, which would be about 1.5 >>> million. They use a software panel (a demographically representative >>> group >>> of volunteers who installed tracking software) so they might be >>> inaccurate >>> (and they only count traffic originating from Hungary I think) but >>> probably >>> not by a factor of four. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > Hello! >>> > >>> > The analytics team is happy to announce that the Unique Devices data is >>> > now available to be queried programmatically via an API. >>> > >>> > This means that getting the daily number of unique devices [1] for >>> English >>> > Wikipedia for the month of February 2016, for all sites (desktop and >>> > mobile) is as easy as launching this query: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/en.wikipedia.org/all-sites/daily/20160201/20160229 >>> > >>> > You can get started by taking a look at our docs: >>> > >>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Unique_Devices#Quick_Start >>> > >>> > If you are not familiar with the Unique Devices data the main thing you >>> > need to know is that >>> > is a good proxy metric to measure Unique Users, more info below. >>> > >>> > Since 2009, the Wikimedia Foundation used comScore to report data about >>> > unique web visitors. In January 2016, however, we decided to stop >>> > reporting comScore numbers [2] because of certain limitations in the >>> > methodology, these limitations translated into misreported mobile >>> usage. We >>> > are now ready to replace comscore numbers with the Unique Devices >>> Dataset . >>> > While unique devices does not equal unique visitors, it is a good >>> proxy for >>> > that metric, meaning that a major increase in the number of unique >>> devices >>> > is likely to come from an increase in distinct users. We understand >>> that >>> > counting uniques raises fairly big privacy concerns and we use a very >>> > private conscious way to count unique devices, it does not include any >>> > cookie by which your browser history can be tracked [3]. >>> > >>> > >>> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices >>> > [2] [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComScore/Announcement >>> > [3] >>> > >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices#How_do_we_count_unique_ >>> > devices.3F >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Analytics mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> > >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/attachments/20160419/9b7d4a38/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 14:50:09 -0700 >>> From: Kevin Leduc <[email protected]> >>> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who >>> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." >>> <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]>, >>> [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Unique Devices data available on API >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAOZyTV0PsrekgGSOd0P=Qm0G6N_Gmsk3F8Of= >>> [email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Here's another useful link to a form that helps you construct the API >>> call: >>> >>> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/?doc#!/Unique_devices_data/get_metrics_unique_devices_project_access_site_granularity_start_end >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Hello! >>> > >>> > The analytics team is happy to announce that the Unique Devices data is >>> > now available to be queried programmatically via an API. >>> > >>> > This means that getting the daily number of unique devices [1] for >>> English >>> > Wikipedia for the month of February 2016, for all sites (desktop and >>> > mobile) is as easy as launching this query: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/en.wikipedia.org/all-sites/daily/20160201/20160229 >>> > >>> > You can get started by taking a look at our docs: >>> > >>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Unique_Devices#Quick_Start >>> > >>> > If you are not familiar with the Unique Devices data the main thing you >>> > need to know is that >>> > is a good proxy metric to measure Unique Users, more info below. >>> > >>> > Since 2009, the Wikimedia Foundation used comScore to report data about >>> > unique web visitors. In January 2016, however, we decided to stop >>> > reporting comScore numbers [2] because of certain limitations in the >>> > methodology, these limitations translated into misreported mobile >>> usage. We >>> > are now ready to replace comscore numbers with the Unique Devices >>> Dataset . >>> > While unique devices does not equal unique visitors, it is a good >>> proxy for >>> > that metric, meaning that a major increase in the number of unique >>> devices >>> > is likely to come from an increase in distinct users. We understand >>> that >>> > counting uniques raises fairly big privacy concerns and we use a very >>> > private conscious way to count unique devices, it does not include any >>> > cookie by which your browser history can be tracked [3]. >>> > >>> > >>> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices >>> > [2] [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComScore/Announcement >>> > [3] >>> > >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices#How_do_we_count_unique_ >>> > devices.3F >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Analytics mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> > >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/attachments/20160419/9bdf5c4f/attachment.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of Analytics Digest, Vol 50, Issue 21 >>> ***************************************** >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> [I don't print e-mails. Do you?] >> http://gplus.to/edoderoo _-=-_ edoderoo.nl >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Analytics mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >> > > > -- > *Marcel Ruiz Forns* > Analytics Developer > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > >
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