gymshoe wrote:
> I also think it is a challenge to step into something as complex as
> picking up java and android as a newbie.
> 
> However, unfortunately that's just the way it is...
> 
> I think your options are:
> 1) give up
> 2) Pay to go to a formal (expensive) computer programming course where
> they will give you more "spoon-feeding"
> 3) Keep reading. Be patient. Be persistent.  As you assimilate
> information it will get easier.  If you have a specific question which
> you are having trouble getting your head around, post a specific
> question on the forum and appreciate anybody who will take the time to
> reply.
> 
> I also used the book Faber mentions. (It was the only one available
> when I started.)  That book can help to get you going, but don't
> expect it to be a panacea.  At times it too may seem over a newbie's
> head (IMHO).  Just keep going, and slowly keep learning.  It gets
> easier and easier.

And chiming in as the author of one of the books Faber mentioned...

In one of the early posts on this thread, you asked for a tutorial that
assumed zero programming knowledge, and taught you Android development.

It may be quite some time before somebody tackles writing something on
that subject. Heaven knows I'm writing a *lot* about Android, and I have
no plans on writing something that teaches Java and Android at the same
time.

You will see more of this all-in-one sort of material for iPhone, but
that is largely because Objective-C has been all but totally abandoned
outside of OS X and iPhone development, so the assumption is newcomers
need to learn the language, so authors tack on a chapter on Objective-C
syntax and hope their readers know how to swim.

With Java, there are many good books and and scores of tutorials out
there for the language itself. I always recommend newcomers to both Java
and Android pick up the basics of Java first *outside* of Android, so
they can take advantage of all this useful material. Then, once you know
what a class and a method are, how to use collections like List, etc.,
work on Android. In the end, this is no more difficult than an
all-in-one package...except you have to get your hands on two things,
rather than one.

-- 
Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)
http://commonsware.com
_The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 2.0 Available!

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