More unsubstantiated statements about TOS - they are online, would you
like to point to the part you violate with a modified bootloader or
even firmware image?

..do they pay you or something?

2009/6/1 Mike Wolfson <[email protected]>:
>
> It should be noted, that the G1 (meaning the TMobile released phone)
> has a locked boot loader, so I would expect modifying the phone to
> manually flash a new OS would violate the terms of service.  So while
> it might not officially void the warranty, I am sure TMobile wouldn't
> be helpful fixing any problems encountered while flashing the phone.
>
> There are definitely ways you can manually update the phone, but I
> think the original poster was trying to determine which ways would be
> officially supported.
>
> I personally wouldn't flash a non-official release to my G1, but
> jumped at the opportunity to manually update to Cupcake, once the
> instructions came out early last week (knowing that there was a
> minimal risk I could brick my phone).
>
>
> On Jun 1, 1:36 pm, Disconnect <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In the USA you can't void the warranty with software. Especially with
>> carrier provided software. Nice try though.
>>
>> For all the 5 or 6 tmobile-usa updates you could download the official
>> OTA zip and apply it manually.
>>
>> And as far as sticking to official updates, I think we mostly agree
>> that the only option he has is to ask his carrier/cellphone provider
>> how long they plan to support his device.
>>
>> 2009/6/1 Mike Wolfson <[email protected]>:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Bottom line, if you buy a carrier supported phone (I am using my
>> > experience with TMobile for this discussion, not sure about
>> > Vodaphone), you will not be able to upgrade the phone manually on a
>> > regular basis.
>>
>> > Most of the upgrades currently have come over the air (OTA).   For the
>> > cupcake release, there was a manual upgrade procedure available, that
>> > wasn't supported by the carrier (read, if anything went wrong, the
>> > warranty was likely voided, etc).
>>
>> > The Android OS is officially upgradeable (meaning, there likely isn't
>> > a 1.5 version phone, that won't be allowed to be updated).  So Android
>> > will support upgrading to 2.0 (when it officially is released, and
>> > supported by your carrier).
>>
>> > The only way to be allowed to upgrade your phone manually, would be to
>> > buy the phones that are released for developer use (called Android Dev
>> > Phone - ADP1 and ADP2).  However, they are much more expensive (they
>> > are not subsidized by the carrier).  If you have either of these
>> > phones, you can flash whatever software you want, whenever you want
>> > (and also have root access to the deep core of the OS, which is
>> > another thing missing from the carrier provided phones).
>>
>> > Bottom line, if you absolutely need to upgrade manually, you will need
>> > to buy a unlocked phone, at increased expense.  Otherwise, you will be
>> > only be allowed to upgrade a carrier provided phone, when they
>> > officially release the upgrade (at which time, you may be able to
>> > speed up the process with a manual procedure, to avoid the wait for an
>> > OTA update).
>>
>> > On Jun 1, 9:52 am, Koala Yeung <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> I need to ask more specific on this.
>>
>> >> I'm going to buy a HTC Magic, which comes with Android 1.5
>> >> I also know that Android 2.0 is under development.
>> >> What I really want to know is:
>>
>> >> "Will I be able to upgrade HTC Magic to Android 2.0?"
>>
>> >> I know I might be able to upgrade manually.
>> >> I want to know if Android officially support this.
>>
>> >> Thanks.
>>
>> >> Koala
>>
>> >> On 6月1日, 下午7時24分, Disconnect <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> > It depends on the phone but for G1 and Magic (T-mobile and Vodafone)
>> >> > you receive updates automatically off the air (OTA).  The ADP1 (and if
>> >> > it comes out, the ADP2) upgrade manually by copying a file to sdcard.
>> >> > (The files appear on HTC's web site, or you can use community versions
>> >> > such as JF's - jf.andblogs.net.) The final option is that one provider
>> >> > evidently used a desktop application to do the same thing, but I don't
>> >> > know the details.
>>
>> >> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Koala (Shu Hung) <[email protected]> 
>> >> > wrote:
>>
>> >> > > I'm planning to buy an Android powered phone. But I want to be sure of
>> >> > > what I'm buying. One of my concern is upgrade. I want to buy a phone
>> >> > > which I can upgrade my OS easily. Android, like other phone OS, rolls
>> >> > > out new version frequently. I don't want to miss those lovely new
>> >> > > features. With an iPhone, I can upgrade my firmware through App Store.
>> >> > > Can I do the same with an Android phone?
>>
>> >> > > Is there any official way to upgrade Android OS?
>> >> > > For example, can I do OS upgrade through Android Market?
> >
>

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