Of course my application has bugs in it, every application ever
written does. I've been doing this going on 45 years now, and I still
can't seem to find the trick to writing the perfect application.

I think I did manage to find and fix all the serious bugs, e.g., null
pointer exceptions, and things of that ilk.

My concern is that there are serious bugs in the emulator / SDK that
my application seems to provoke: the default GTalk session can't be
reliably started because of timeouts; the default GTalk session
crashes, minutes and hours after my application is done with it; GPS
provider throwing intents after I tell it to stop; the default
instrumentation firing up for some reason and them complaining that it
can't find several dozen, sometimes hundreds of files that it wants to
delete; activity / server IPC connections that can't be consistently
closed; etc. All of this results in an incredible amount of syslog
"stuff" that seriously slows down my application until the stuff
completes, resulting in "application not responding" dialogs.

I'd be interested in knowing how the judges will react to that.

Jim Renkel

On Apr 26, 1:48 pm, "Dan U." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have gotten a bit irritated a few times answering questions when
> people just won't listen, but most of the time I remain calm.
>
> On Apr 26, 11:43 am, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, typo on my part, I meant beard, although bear sounds cooler.
>
> > Is there a reason I give off the impression of being a 55 year
> > old bear owner with my writing?
>
> > You like to help everybody which reminds me of a guy I used to work
> > with, he was around 55 and had a big beard. Also, your writing sounds
> > very calm most of the times, unlike many of us that are very nutty, as
> > Shane pointed out.
>
> > On Apr 26, 2:31 pm, "Dan U." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I assume you mean me? Hahahaha. Yeah, my picture does kinda look
> > > Terminator-ish.
>
> > > And while I do live out in the sticks and double as a lumberjack
> > > depending on the day of the week, I don't own a bear.
>
> > > Hasta la Vista baby!
>
> > > P.S. Is there a reason I give off the impression of being a 55 year
> > > old bear owner with my writing?
>
> > > On Apr 25, 9:35 pm, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Yep, all recognizable names. It will be really interesting to see how
> > > > many of these people actually win.
> > > > I just checked Dan's profile and was surprised when I saw his
> > > > Terminator like picture. Somehow I thought he was a 55 year old guy
> > > > with a big bear. I guess writing can be deceiving. I also thought
> > > > Shane was a chick (LOL!).
>
> > > > On Apr 26, 12:25 am, "Muthu Ramadoss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > LOL!
>
> > > > > Ok.. here's the official list of fanatics in this group:
>
> > > > > *Top posters*
> > > > > *This month*  185 Muthu
> > > > > Ramadoss<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=rbCW_BgAAADFl2eb7KRE...>
> > > > > 96 
> > > > > Incognito<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=8s0nRxMAAABEc5RZ0yPN...>
> > > > > 62 
> > > > > YA<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=n8BPOBYAAACD0yp2_rrU...>
> > > > > 58 Shane 
> > > > > Isbell<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=3VbWkRYAAAB0OgHIONMT...>
> > > > > 55 
> > > > > Peli<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=Wog2hBcAAAA_Woc2Zx7w...>
> > > > > 43 Dan 
> > > > > U.<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=rtQq1BMAAADyFD0HjyV6...>
> > > > > 38 Cow 
> > > > > Bay<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=-hGjChEAAACMenbMqLgI...>
> > > > > 32 
> > > > > Hielko<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=mDNB9xMAAAALmU1613fb...>
> > > > > 31 
> > > > > Megha<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=RE6yFxEAAACqSto1WHfG...>
> > > > > 27 Dan 
> > > > > Morrill<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=iEpWpxMAAADgPAf1PpCc...>
> > > > > *All time* 220 Muthu
> > > > > Ramadoss<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=rbCW_BgAAADFl2eb7KRE...>
> > > > > 171 Dan 
> > > > > U.<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=rtQq1BMAAADyFD0HjyV6...>
> > > > > 141 
> > > > > Peli<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=Wog2hBcAAAA_Woc2Zx7w...>
> > > > > 111 
> > > > > Incognito<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=8s0nRxMAAABEc5RZ0yPN...>
> > > > > 103 Shane 
> > > > > Isbell<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=3VbWkRYAAAB0OgHIONMT...>
> > > > > 95 
> > > > > YA<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=n8BPOBYAAACD0yp2_rrU...>
> > > > > 65 Dan 
> > > > > Morrill<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=iEpWpxMAAADgPAf1PpCc...>
> > > > > 52 Cow 
> > > > > Bay<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=-hGjChEAAACMenbMqLgI...>
> > > > > 50 Wesley 
> > > > > Sagittarius<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=vyzZJxIAAAAVXSr5Mi3u...>
> > > > > 43 
> > > > > Megha<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=RE6yFxEAAACqSto1WHfG...>
>
> > > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Go to his profile, he has a link to his website. I'm assuming that 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > tool he has there, time management, is what he submitted to the
> > > > > > challenge. What I find interesting though, is that this is his first
> > > > > > post ever to the challenge forum. Just another example of 
> > > > > > contestants
> > > > > > that particiapted in the challenge but never posted in this forum. I
> > > > > > guess not everybody is as fanatic about the challenge as some of us.
> > > > > > I've noticed that Peli has cooled down though. Nothing important to
> > > > > > say I guess. Me, i'm happy to just say something.
>
> > > > > > On Apr 26, 12:10 am, "Muthu Ramadoss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Wow, you have written something that you are using everyday. 
> > > > > > > Thats should
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > really nice. What is it? ;)
>
> > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 9:09 AM, friendlyware <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Apr 25, 2:06 am, "Cow Bay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > you just need a QA team, so hope google will help you on that.
>
> > > > > > > > Well a QA would certainly be of grate help.
>
> > > > > > > > I always have been using a kind of test driving development and 
> > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > application seems has no bugs in its features.
>
> > > > > > > > However the test driven development does not helps in the proof
> > > > > > > > reading.
>
> > > > > > > >  I simply did not notice a bug in a text label probably because 
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > always read only important part of it (the day) and not the 
> > > > > > > > time.
>
> > > > > > > > It took me one minute to fix the bug but 10 days to notice it!
> > > > > > > > (My application is a kind of productivity tool and I use it 
> > > > > > > > myself
> > > > > > > > every day)
>
> > > > > > > > I understand that now the deadline for the round 1 has passed.
>
> > > > > > > > However, it would be grate if after round 1 Google provide an 
> > > > > > > > official
> > > > > > > > link to submit the bug fixes for those lucky who will be 
> > > > > > > > selected for
> > > > > > > > round 2.
>
> > > > > > > > Vadim Motorin
>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > take care,
> > > > > > > Muthu Ramadoss.
>
> > > > > > >http://mobeegal.in
> > > > > > > find stuff closer.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > take care,
> > > > > Muthu Ramadoss.
>
> > > > >http://mobeegal.in
> > > > > find stuff closer.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
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