"Hello World!" app cannot have a bug^.^

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From: "jim.renkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Android Challenge" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:59 PM
Subject: [android-challenge] Re: How many people submitted with known bugs?


>
> Of course my application has bugs in it, every application ever
> written does. I've been doing this going on 45 years now, and I still
> can't seem to find the trick to writing the perfect application.
>
> I think I did manage to find and fix all the serious bugs, e.g., null
> pointer exceptions, and things of that ilk.
>
> My concern is that there are serious bugs in the emulator / SDK that
> my application seems to provoke: the default GTalk session can't be
> reliably started because of timeouts; the default GTalk session
> crashes, minutes and hours after my application is done with it; GPS
> provider throwing intents after I tell it to stop; the default
> instrumentation firing up for some reason and them complaining that it
> can't find several dozen, sometimes hundreds of files that it wants to
> delete; activity / server IPC connections that can't be consistently
> closed; etc. All of this results in an incredible amount of syslog
> "stuff" that seriously slows down my application until the stuff
> completes, resulting in "application not responding" dialogs.
>
> I'd be interested in knowing how the judges will react to that.
>
> Jim Renkel
>
> On Apr 26, 1:48 pm, "Dan U." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have gotten a bit irritated a few times answering questions when
> > people just won't listen, but most of the time I remain calm.
> >
> > On Apr 26, 11:43 am, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry, typo on my part, I meant beard, although bear sounds cooler.
> >
> > > Is there a reason I give off the impression of being a 55 year
> > > old bear owner with my writing?
> >
> > > You like to help everybody which reminds me of a guy I used to work
> > > with, he was around 55 and had a big beard. Also, your writing sounds
> > > very calm most of the times, unlike many of us that are very nutty, as
> > > Shane pointed out.
> >
> > > On Apr 26, 2:31 pm, "Dan U." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > I assume you mean me? Hahahaha. Yeah, my picture does kinda look
> > > > Terminator-ish.
> >
> > > > And while I do live out in the sticks and double as a lumberjack
> > > > depending on the day of the week, I don't own a bear.
> >
> > > > Hasta la Vista baby!
> >
> > > > P.S. Is there a reason I give off the impression of being a 55 year
> > > > old bear owner with my writing?
> >
> > > > On Apr 25, 9:35 pm, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Yep, all recognizable names. It will be really interesting to see
how
> > > > > many of these people actually win.
> > > > > I just checked Dan's profile and was surprised when I saw his
> > > > > Terminator like picture. Somehow I thought he was a 55 year old
guy
> > > > > with a big bear. I guess writing can be deceiving. I also thought
> > > > > Shane was a chick (LOL!).
> >
> > > > > On Apr 26, 12:25 am, "Muthu Ramadoss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > LOL!
> >
> > > > > > Ok.. here's the official list of fanatics in this group:
> >
> > > > > > *Top posters*
> > > > > > *This month*  185 Muthu
> > > > > >
Ramadoss<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=rbCW_BgAAADFl2eb7K
RE...>
> > > > > > 96
Incognito<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=8s0nRxMAAABEc5RZ0
yPN...>
> > > > > > 62
YA<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=n8BPOBYAAACD0yp2_rrU...>
> > > > > > 58 Shane
Isbell<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=3VbWkRYAAAB0OgHIONMT
...>
> > > > > > 55
Peli<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=Wog2hBcAAAA_Woc2Zx7w..
.>
> > > > > > 43 Dan
U.<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=rtQq1BMAAADyFD0HjyV6...>
> > > > > > 38 Cow
Bay<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=-hGjChEAAACMenbMqLgI...
>
> > > > > > 32
Hielko<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=mDNB9xMAAAALmU1613fb
...>
> > > > > > 31
Megha<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=RE6yFxEAAACqSto1WHfG.
..>
> > > > > > 27 Dan
Morrill<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=iEpWpxMAAADgPAf1PpC
c...>
> > > > > > *All time* 220 Muthu
> > > > > >
Ramadoss<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=rbCW_BgAAADFl2eb7K
RE...>
> > > > > > 171 Dan
U.<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=rtQq1BMAAADyFD0HjyV6...>
> > > > > > 141
Peli<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=Wog2hBcAAAA_Woc2Zx7w..
.>
> > > > > > 111
Incognito<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=8s0nRxMAAABEc5RZ0
yPN...>
> > > > > > 103 Shane
Isbell<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=3VbWkRYAAAB0OgHIONMT
...>
> > > > > > 95
YA<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=n8BPOBYAAACD0yp2_rrU...>
> > > > > > 65 Dan
Morrill<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=iEpWpxMAAADgPAf1PpC
c...>
> > > > > > 52 Cow
Bay<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=-hGjChEAAACMenbMqLgI...
>
> > > > > > 50 Wesley
Sagittarius<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=vyzZJxIAAAAVXSr
5Mi3u...>
> > > > > > 43
Megha<http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=RE6yFxEAAACqSto1WHfG.
..>
> >
> > > > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Go to his profile, he has a link to his website. I'm assuming
that the
> > > > > > > tool he has there, time management, is what he submitted to
the
> > > > > > > challenge. What I find interesting though, is that this is his
first
> > > > > > > post ever to the challenge forum. Just another example of
contestants
> > > > > > > that particiapted in the challenge but never posted in this
forum. I
> > > > > > > guess not everybody is as fanatic about the challenge as some
of us.
> > > > > > > I've noticed that Peli has cooled down though. Nothing
important to
> > > > > > > say I guess. Me, i'm happy to just say something.
> >
> > > > > > > On Apr 26, 12:10 am, "Muthu Ramadoss"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Wow, you have written something that you are using everyday.
Thats should
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > really nice. What is it? ;)
> >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 9:09 AM, friendlyware
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > On Apr 25, 2:06 am, "Cow Bay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > you just need a QA team, so hope google will help you on
that.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Well a QA would certainly be of grate help.
> >
> > > > > > > > > I always have been using a kind of test driving
development and my
> > > > > > > > > application seems has no bugs in its features.
> >
> > > > > > > > > However the test driven development does not helps in the
proof
> > > > > > > > > reading.
> >
> > > > > > > > >  I simply did not notice a bug in a text label probably
because I
> > > > > > > > > always read only important part of it (the day) and not
the time.
> >
> > > > > > > > > It took me one minute to fix the bug but 10 days to notice
it!
> > > > > > > > > (My application is a kind of productivity tool and I use
it myself
> > > > > > > > > every day)
> >
> > > > > > > > > I understand that now the deadline for the round 1 has
passed.
> >
> > > > > > > > > However, it would be grate if after round 1 Google provide
an official
> > > > > > > > > link to submit the bug fixes for those lucky who will be
selected for
> > > > > > > > > round 2.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Vadim Motorin
> >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > take care,
> > > > > > > > Muthu Ramadoss.
> >
> > > > > > > >http://mobeegal.in
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> > > > > > --
> > > > > > take care,
> > > > > > Muthu Ramadoss.
> >
> > > > > >http://mobeegal.in
> > > > > > find stuff closer.- Hide quoted text -
> >
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> >


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