The stuff we've done would work for blind people as well as non- readers. But it is hard to show it without a real handset. I know when purchasing a mic for this project there was a review of the Zoom H2 from an existing organization:
http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/3423836/ from someplace called blindcooltech.com I am not really sure about consequences, but it would reduce our carbon footprint here in the US. It might reduce starvation and suffering in other countries as the price of fuel has gone up on rich and poor alike. On May 19, 12:40 am, kurosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > efontana, > > I can see your app reducing the carbon footprint more effectively, and > dramatically than a calculator. > I just read in the paper today about dogs helping out people with > physical disabilities and it immediately struck me that the remote > operation of actuators could help ease the task of operating several > household devices, etc. > I do recall that there was an app for ADC that did have this > capability. I just can't seem to find that app. > Anyway, the long and short of it is that, if we could all come > together with our humanitarian, economic, etc. apps and host them > centrally somehow it would be usefull for people with disabilities. > What license you want to release the app under is entirely upto each > of the contributors. > Just a thought. Looking for some feedback from others who have > developed similar apps. > > kurosh > > On May 19, 7:17 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > It is a set of tools to coordinate people around transportation. The > > core program is a traffic avoidance tool that is used to make everyone > > more reliable with a goal to establish reputation based ecommerce for > > vehicle consolidation (aka carpooling). It turns out the same tools > > used to manage a "bus" stop for adults, works for a bunch of kids at > > the county fair, and can be used to drive efficient commerce at a > > pedestrian market. The merchant beacon helps strengthen relationships > > between merchants and their customers without over consuming the > > attention of either. > > > The original goal was to help the American Commuting public win a > > Nobel Peace prize by reducing fuel consumption by over half. Much of > > the world must see us as a bad actor on the world stage. If you fill > > up a Suburban with people it is a 100-120 person mile per gallon > > vehicle, but you are not going to do that one person at a time. You > > need a bus stop at Starbucks or somewhere. And everybody has to be > > ready at the curb when you get there. And you need to make sure you > > invite only people who don't raise your hackles... Anyway, on the > > path of chasing the hard goal, a lot of good stuff about how to > > efficiently coordinate people fell out. > > > The focus on people who don't read maps did not help with the contest, > > but we think it can help a huge market. > > > On May 18, 4:43 pm, gtandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's good to see a few more in the top echalon. What is your > > > application ? > > > > On May 18, 3:04 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Our app is about economic development and it scored in the top 25% in > > > > originality and top 25% in indispensability. > > > > > But 90% of the app is eyes free and hands free. Screens are expensive, > > > > fragile and compete for our most precious resource - our visual > > > > attention. So from a use of android perspective, we did not do so > > > > well, same with polish. > > > > > Here is kind of how we worked it out. The handset makers need to sell > > > > high margin phones with high value add that a screen can provide. We > > > > need to teach folks how to use the hands free, eyes free features. > > > > Screen shots are memorable. > > > > > We will use the screen as a use tutorial. This may be slightly more > > > > code intensive than the application... but the use model is very > > > > similar for, say, the Lost Sheep Finder and the Merchant Beacon, so we > > > > can use the same code and teaching algorithms with different images. > > > > Replace the Sheep with a Lighthouse with goods around the bottom, kind > > > > of like a Christmas tree. Replace the Border Collie Head with Shopping > > > > Cart. We improve comprehension and retention. > > > > > I see not winning this round as a chance to recognize valid objections > > > > and address them. The application has to engage people. For our > > > > application to reach pedestrian populations, inexpensive phones need a > > > > compass function, the handset makers will need to decide to spend one > > > > dollar to provide that function (likely using two 25 cent > > > > accelerometers). > > > > > Our job is to sell the handset guys on producing that phone. They > > > > work for the carriers. > > > > > Carriers can make money from being the first to offer the portfolio of > > > > products in our application. > > > > > All we need to do is show them. > > > > > Thank you for helping direct frustration into action. > > > > > On May 18, 12:18 pm, kurosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Some of the things that are really perplexing: > > > > > 1) Why do all the accessibilty/humanitarian apps have such a low score > > > > > on originality. There are very few handsets if any that have these > > > > > features. > > > > > 2) The target demographic of the disabled deaf/blind/cognitive/etc. is > > > > > a totally untapped market, as explained in 1) . > > > > > So wouldn't it be smarter to address an untapped demographic, than to > > > > > compete against existing handset players where there is cut-throat > > > > > competition? > > > > > > On May 18, 10:05 pm, gtandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > hmmmm....from the list here (and I am sure there must've been > > > > > > more), I > > > > > > would have traded one of these in lieu of one of the 3 weather apps, > > > > > > or one of the quite a few social networking apps doing the same > > > > > > thing, > > > > > > then there was the WriterPad thing where you move your pen on the > > > > > > letters to form words, quite a few family safety apps that seems to > > > > > > be > > > > > > doing useful work which could easily be doled out to 911, etc, > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > So I don't buy it that there weren't enough apps to choose from, or > > > > > > that there were "more original" apps from the ones that were ranked > > > > > > higher up. Agreed, none of these would be either "popular" or > > > > > > "profitable" due to the marginal demographics that they support, but > > > > > > that is the nature of these type of applications. And Google should > > > > > > have been careful about including these categories for possible > > > > > > entries to the challenge. > > > > > > > My application is called SmallWorld, and it is meant to connect kids > > > > > > from developed nations with under priviledged kids all over the > > > > > > world. > > > > > > It is a kid-to-kid type of an application, where children would > > > > > > accrue > > > > > > reward points to find sponsors, make friends and keep connected with > > > > > > their under priviledged friends. The concept is that instead of just > > > > > > supporting them with money, kids from developed countries could also > > > > > > stay in touch (phone to PC). And what better way to have them than > > > > > > use > > > > > > their phone to do this, where they are always connected and can > > > > > > recieve reminders (thanks to Android notifications). > > > > > > > The application has a widget engine which allows kids to build > > > > > > mobile > > > > > > notes (with text, pictures or voice) and send it to a PC or phone > > > > > > (XMPP to another phone user). The application currently allows 6 > > > > > > different templates(including language templates) to choose from, > > > > > > finish with their content and sending to their counter parts. When > > > > > > Android starts supporting dynamic loading of layouts, a way for > > > > > > content providers to offer mobile content thru infinite templates, > > > > > > for > > > > > > kids to pick up and customize their content. > > > > > > > The application would fall under humanitarian (while these kids are > > > > > > helping other kids, they are also growing up with a much better > > > > > > understanding of the world than just Nick and Disney and facebook) > > > > > > as > > > > > > well something that will facilitate economic development (for > > > > > > example > > > > > > kids can generate sponsorship amounts toward's their friend's > > > > > > education, and education is the core of any economic development). > > > > > > And > > > > > > while doing all this the kids could be collecting reward points... > > > > > > > Agreed not as good as some other apps here from the perspective of > > > > > > immediate value. > > > > > > > This was my rank > > > > > > > Effective use: In the 50th to 75th percentile of all submitted > > > > > > applications > > > > > > Polish: In the 50th to 75th percentile of all submitted applications > > > > > > Indispensability: In the lower 25% of all submitted applications > > > > > > Originality: In the lower 25% of all submitted applications > > > > > > > Overall: In the lower 25% of all submitted applications > > > > > > > On May 17, 1:27 pm, "Dan U." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > There is no > > > > > > > > application from this category (except if we consider the family > > > > > > > > safety type of apps) in the first 50. > > > > > > > > I don't know why no humanitarian apps were chosen, but I could > > > > > > > form a > > > > > > > guess. First, I recall shortly before the submission deadline, > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > in the group asked for more humanitarian app submissions. This > > > > > > > person > > > > > > > had a google.com email, so it might have been a Google employee. I > > > > > > > don't really know. If so, it sounds like they hadn't gotten many > > > > > > > submissions for that category. Because of that, it seems like > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > were few to choose from and the judges just may have not liked > > > > > > > any of > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > And, just a guess on why a business entity would do this... Google > > > > > > > might just be a "different" company with some desire to help > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > instead of just maximizing profits. I don't know though. Beyond > > > > > > > that, > > > > > > > it might be a tax write-off to provide something usable for > > > > > > > humanitarian issues (although I don't know the tax laws for that). > > > > > > > > On May 16, 7:37 pm, gtandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Google's initial ADC announcement that among other > > > > > > > > applications, they > > > > > > > > would also be looking for humanitarian applications, > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Challenge" group. To post to this group, send email to android-challenge@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-challenge?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---