Yeah.. it's confusing....
What I did was change my code to send all requests from my phone apps to
my server. Then I check to see if I already have it, and return the
results from my server. If I don't already have it, then I request it
from the Google server. I guess my new way makes it easier for them to
figure it out, but I also make considerably less requests so haven't had
any problems lately.
I think the navigation companies don't exploit it, because according to
the TOS, it must be used with Google Maps... and I'm pretty sure the
navigation companies know that Google has a few lawyers :).
Brad.
On 24/08/2010 9:57 AM, Filip Havlicek wrote:
Hi Brad,
thanks for your information from a practical experience with this,
although it just seems weird. Why navigation companies doesn't exploit
this? And how do they figure it out? Since you can make a request from
your phone as well as from a desktop application or even your browser.
Binding the limit to IP address seems awfully unfair since when
connecting the phone through your telephone provider, you get the same
IP address as tens, maybe even hundreds of other users. That would
seriously limit application's usability in these cases (= mobile
applications).
Best regards,
Filip Havlicfek
PS: I'm "arguing" about this matter since I'm seriously interested in
it and would like to see some proofs instead of assumptions. No harsh
feelings :)
2010/8/24 Brad Gies <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Just to clear up what might be a little confusion... The limit is
2,500 per "Developer", "Key", or "Website", not for "All Apps for
anyone". ... I don't know how they figure it out either....but I
can tell you that when I have used more than that limit for more
than a couple of days in a row, I was cut off for 24 hours :).
They also state that it is meant to be used to make a query one
time, and that you should cache the results (and follow the TOS)
instead of calling it again, and if you do that, you will find you
don't use it to the limit very often :).
On 24/08/2010 12:31 AM, Filip Havlicek wrote:
And you are sure based on what? Your assumption? I'm just
telling you what is written.
"Use of the Google Directions API is subject to a query limit
of 2,500 directions requests per day."
Nothing else is written there about the public limitations.
I'm pretty sure the limitations is for all the applications
because 1) for public usage, you don't need any key 2) from
user point of view, who would request 2500 directions per day?
I'm sure practical user maximum would be around 100-200
request. And this limitation is there IMHO for rendering usage
of this API in a core of commercial navigation softwares (ie
TomTom) impossible, because they would make a lot of money on
this basic API (I don't own any of this software, but from
what I know, that's just what they do -
directions+maps+reading, that could be done with Google APIs
in a few days).
Although I'm sure I can be ultimately wrong (although in that
case, I would be curious why noone would be exploiting these
APIs to make profit).
Best regards,
Filip Havlicek
2010/8/24 davemac <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>>
That doesn't sound quite right. I'm sure that the limit is
either
based on the signature of the app (questionable) or based
somehow on
the user who's using it. Either way I'm not sure how Google
could
possibly figure either one out. If it's the latter as I
suspect, then
I should be fine using the Directions API in my app, with
some sort of
notice to the user that only 2500 requests per day are
allowed. If
it's the former, then I'm most likely out of luck.
Anyone else know?
- dave
On Aug 22, 11:31 am, Filip Havlicek
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> As far as I know, the 2500 requests per day is for all
applications out
> there (be it desktop, mobile or whatever), so your application
really can't
> rely on this directions API since it can be brought offline in
less then an
> hour by all the applications using it. (And in my opinion that's
why noone
> is using it for anything but debugging.)
>
> 2010/8/22 davemac <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>
> > I would love to be able to use the Directions API in my
Android app,
> > but I'm confused by the information in the Directions API
> >
documentation:http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/directions/
> > so the short form of my question is: can Android apps use the
Google
> > Directions API?
>
> > It clearly states the intended audience includes mobile
developers.
> > But it also states that you're limited to 2500 requests per
day. Does
> > this mean my app, if deployed to thousands of devices, is
in total
> > restricted to 2500 requests per day? How could the Google
server tell
> > anyway? Based on IP address? In which case I may be okay.
The docs
> > also say no API key is required so again it would seem the
Google
> > servers have nothing to use to accumulate a counter of
requests per
> > day. Still, I don't want to be in violation of any Google
Terms of
> > Service.
>
> > So is it okay or not? Thanks in advance.
>
> > - dave
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