Well why not display the according Google Map? Users don't care where is the
map from as long as they see proper stuff on it :)

Yeah, I'm sure Google has, although I don't know if prohibition of using
Google APIs in commercial software is stated in TOS or somewhere else
(actually didn't read it all through).

Best regards,
Filip Havlicek

2010/8/24 Brad Gies <[email protected]>

>
> Yeah.. it's confusing....
>
> What I did was change my code to send all requests from my phone apps to my
> server. Then I check to see if I already have it, and return the results
> from my server. If I don't already have it, then I request it from the
> Google server. I guess my new way makes it easier for them to figure it out,
> but I also make considerably less requests so haven't had any problems
> lately.
>
> I think the navigation companies don't exploit it, because according to the
> TOS, it must be used with Google Maps... and I'm pretty sure the navigation
> companies know that Google has a few lawyers :).
>
> Brad.
>
>
>
> On 24/08/2010 9:57 AM, Filip Havlicek wrote:
>
>> Hi Brad,
>>
>> thanks for your information from a practical experience with this,
>> although it just seems weird. Why navigation companies doesn't exploit this?
>> And how do they figure it out? Since you can make a request from your phone
>> as well as from a desktop application or even your browser. Binding the
>> limit to IP address seems awfully unfair since when connecting the phone
>> through your telephone provider, you get the same IP address as tens, maybe
>> even hundreds of other users. That would seriously limit application's
>> usability in these cases (= mobile applications).
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Filip Havlicfek
>>
>> PS: I'm "arguing" about this matter since I'm seriously interested in it
>> and would like to see some proofs instead of assumptions. No harsh feelings
>> :)
>>
>> 2010/8/24 Brad Gies <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    Just to clear up what might be a little confusion... The limit is
>>    2,500 per "Developer", "Key", or "Website", not for "All Apps for
>>    anyone". ... I don't know how they figure it out either....but I
>>    can tell you that when I have used more than that limit for more
>>    than a couple of days in a row, I was cut off for 24 hours :).
>>
>>    They also state that it is meant to be used to make a query one
>>    time, and that you should cache the results (and follow the TOS)
>>    instead of calling it again, and if you do that, you will find you
>>    don't use it to the limit very often :).
>>
>>
>>
>>    On 24/08/2010 12:31 AM, Filip Havlicek wrote:
>>
>>        And you are sure based on what? Your assumption? I'm just
>>        telling you what is written.
>>
>>        "Use of the Google Directions API is subject to a query limit
>>        of 2,500 directions requests per day."
>>
>>        Nothing else is written there about the public limitations.
>>        I'm pretty sure the limitations is for all the applications
>>        because 1) for public usage, you don't need any key 2) from
>>        user point of view, who would request 2500 directions per day?
>>        I'm sure practical user maximum would be around 100-200
>>        request. And this limitation is there IMHO for rendering usage
>>        of this API in a core of commercial navigation softwares (ie
>>        TomTom) impossible, because they would make a lot of money on
>>        this basic API (I don't own any of this software, but from
>>        what I know, that's just what they do -
>>        directions+maps+reading, that could be done with Google APIs
>>        in a few days).
>>
>>        Although I'm sure I can be ultimately wrong (although in that
>>        case, I would be curious why noone would be exploiting these
>>        APIs to make profit).
>>
>>        Best regards,
>>        Filip Havlicek
>>
>>        2010/8/24 davemac <[email protected]
>>        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>>
>>        <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>
>>
>>           That doesn't sound quite right. I'm sure that the limit is
>>        either
>>           based on the signature of the app (questionable) or based
>>        somehow on
>>           the user who's using it. Either way I'm not sure how Google
>>        could
>>           possibly figure either one out. If it's the latter as I
>>        suspect, then
>>           I should be fine using the Directions API in my app, with
>>        some sort of
>>           notice to the user that only 2500 requests per day are
>>        allowed. If
>>           it's the former, then I'm most likely out of luck.
>>
>>           Anyone else know?
>>
>>           - dave
>>
>>           On Aug 22, 11:31 am, Filip Havlicek
>>        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>        <mailto:[email protected]
>>        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>        > As far as I know, the 2500 requests per day is for all
>>           applications out
>>        > there (be it desktop, mobile or whatever), so your application
>>           really can't
>>        > rely on this directions API since it can be brought offline in
>>           less then an
>>        > hour by all the applications using it. (And in my opinion that's
>>           why noone
>>        > is using it for anything but debugging.)
>>        >
>>        > 2010/8/22 davemac <[email protected]
>>        <mailto:[email protected]>
>>        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>
>>
>>        >
>>        > > I would love to be able to use the Directions API in my
>>           Android app,
>>        > > but I'm confused by the information in the Directions API
>>        > >
>>                  documentation:
>> http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/directions/
>>        > > so the short form of my question is: can Android apps use the
>>           Google
>>        > > Directions API?
>>        >
>>        > > It clearly states the intended audience includes mobile
>>           developers.
>>        > > But it also states that you're limited to 2500 requests per
>>           day. Does
>>        > > this mean my app, if deployed to thousands of devices, is
>>        in total
>>        > > restricted to 2500 requests per day? How could the Google
>>           server tell
>>        > > anyway? Based on IP address? In which case I may be okay.
>>        The docs
>>        > > also say no API key is required so again it would seem the
>>        Google
>>        > > servers have nothing to use to accumulate a counter of
>>           requests per
>>        > > day. Still, I don't want to be in violation of any Google
>>        Terms of
>>        > > Service.
>>        >
>>        > > So is it okay or not? Thanks in advance.
>>        >
>>        > > - dave
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