i'm in complete agreement. Rails has a lot of good ideas and is very quick to get started, but Ruby is a disaster of a language IMHO.

the Groovy/Grails thing almost gets there, but then they had to go and make a new Ruby-like language, sigh.

however, if you adopt RESTful URLs and JSON, then that effectively isolates your server technology, allowing you to switch from a prototype environment to a production one without any change to the clients.



Hi all,

Robert, I think we spoke on another thread a while back.. forget now. I am a JEE guy, tried RoR, couldn't stand the language syntax and how slow, for most things it was. I know I know.. RoR is often cited by java developers as being much faster to build apps with, etc. I just don't find it to be true, for me. The language reminds me too much of perl and I never liked that. Java, C, OO Pascal, even Basic, just seems to make more sense as a language structurally. I've also tried OBjective-C and find it to be much harder to work with than C/C++. I don't know why.. I just can't remember all the little nuances of the language, like the hyphen on lines, etc.


On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Justin Giles <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:


And an off topic question.. I see more and more people talking about getting a free phone from google? Is there some place you sign up to get this? I'd love to get a Nexus One to test on... sounds like some people are getting just that.. a free phone to test on?


Please see the following thread:
<http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/49da01a3cb7f8803>http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/49da01a3cb7f8803

Justin



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